speedometer/transmission

[rust bucket 86]

My speedometer stopped working. After pulling the cable off the transmission, it appears that the gear drive is frozen in the tail shaft. The shaft where that cable pin goes does not turn or have any play at all.when I try to remove it by pulling up, it won't budge. I have sprayed penetrating oil with no results yet. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I cannot remove the gear drive.

 

[Elmo]

need a picture to understand

 

[miesk5]

yo, Is it a BW 1345?

Did you pull the seal off?

http://content.chiltonsonline.com/content/images/8576/images/85766073.gif

BW 1345 diagram & rear output seal/ gear removal by Josh G (moneypit) at http://www.supermotors.net/registry/4369/18426

and for the BW 1356, there is a c clip that needs to be removed; see:

Gear Change in a 90 (at transfer case)

Source: by Keith L (TTB Blows, Bling-Bling) at http://www.supermotors.net/clubs/superford/registry/139/13464

PM BLADE262US here and ask for more info; ... & some pics if you need them

see his;

1356 Manual Shift Rebuild in 87-91; "...This will be for a manual shift T Case 1356 from an 89 should cover 87 threw 91 . 92 through 96 are not equiped to drive a speedometer cable so the back case cover is a bit different..."

Source: by BLADE262US at Ford Bronco Zone Forums http://www.broncolinks.com/index.php?index=70

 

[rust bucket 86]

Thanks for your help once again. It is the BW 1356. My problem is I have the plastic plug ,which houses the cable and the cruise control, disconnected.(The nub in the pictures where the speedometer cable slides into the gear drive has also been removed). So I think it is just the gear drive that is frozen in place. I have no play,movement or any wiggle at all when I try to remove it. Where the insert for the cable shaft is does not spin or move. From there down is frozen in the tail shaft and I don't know how to remove it.. In other words the clip and the gear drive are frozen in place and did not come out when I removed the cable..

yo, Is it a BW 1345?

Did you pull the seal off?

http://content.chilt...es/85766073.gif

BW 1345 diagram & rear output seal/ gear removal by Josh G (moneypit) at http://www.supermoto...stry/4369/18426

and for the BW 1356, there is a c clip that needs to be removed; see:

Gear Change in a 90 (at transfer case)

Source: by Keith L (TTB Blows, Bling-Bling) at http://www.supermoto...istry/139/13464

PM BLADE262US here and ask for more info; ... & some pics if you need them

see his;

1356 Manual Shift Rebuild in 87-91; "...This will be for a manual shift T Case 1356 from an 89 should cover 87 threw 91 . 92 through 96 are not equiped to drive a speedometer cable so the back case cover is a bit different..."

Source: by BLADE262US at Ford Bronco Zone Forums http://www.broncolin...ex.php?index=70

 

[miesk5]

yo, ok

I beieve the drive gear (yellow in most Broncos & F series) turn with & only when the shaft turns

Here are some tips;

the speedo gear... it has a retaining clip behind it... remove the clip then slide it tight to the case... there is a little ball there that keeps it from spinning...remove the ball but do not lose it... the gear will now slip off

by DcSkater602 (Steve)

1356 Manual Shift Rebuild info & pics in an 88 F 150

Source: by allfordman at http://www.supermotors.net/registry/19604/66966

excerpts;

Remove the 4 T bolts that hold the tail housing on. Remove the tail housing

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/687551/fullsize/speedo-done.jpg

Remove the black rubber washer. It just comes straight off the shaft. It’s snug. Pull harder.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/687553/fullsize/speedo-gear-and-clip.jpg

Push the speedo gear down. Use a magnet to take the ball out. Take the speedo gear up and off the shaft.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/687552/fullsize/speedo-gear-and-ball.jpg

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1356 Manual Shift Rebuild in a 90

Source: by Keith L (TTB Blows, Bling-Bling) at http://www.supermotors.net/clubs/superford/registry/139/13379

excerpts

Now you'll find a c-clip behind the speedo drive gear - remove this



Here you can just make out the BB which locates the speedo drive gear. Remove this and store carefully



used my bearning splitter to pull the drive gear off, but you can use long screwdrivers or pry bars *if you're careful*



You can just make out the notch in the drive gear that the BB uses to locate it



Now you must remove this snap ring; be sure you have _quality_ snap ring pliers. I eventually went to Snap On.

 

[rust bucket 86]

[quowhte name=miesk5' timestamp='1335455269' post='119500]

where the speedometer cable connects to the black gear, held on by the clip, is my problem. From the c clip down is what is stuck/ frozen in the tail shaft. It won't budge. My speedometer works if you spin the cable, but that black gear is what I need to replace once I can remove it. I forgot to tell you the transmission is an AOD if that matters. Your pictures are great and maybe I should take some myself. It is very difficult for me to try an explain my problem. I hope this helps. Thank you again for trying to understand my lack of an accurate description to my problem. I appreciate all your help.

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I beieve the drive gear (yellow in most Broncos & F series) turn with & only when the shaft turns

Here are some tips;

the speedo gear... it has a retaining clip behind it... remove the clip then slide it tight to the case... there is a little ball there that keeps it from spinning...remove the ball but do not lose it... the gear will now slip off

by DcSkater602 (Steve)

1356 Manual Shift Rebuild info & pics in an 88 F 150

Source: by allfordman at http://www.supermoto...try/19604/66966

excerpts;

Remove the 4 T bolts that hold the tail housing on. Remove the tail housing

http://www.supermoto...speedo-done.jpg

Remove the black rubber washer. It just comes straight off the shaft. It’s snug. Pull harder.

http://www.supermoto...ar-and-clip.jpg

Push the speedo gear down. Use a magnet to take the ball out. Take the speedo gear up and off the shaft.

http://www.supermoto...ar-and-ball.jpg

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1356 Manual Shift Rebuild in a 90

Source: by Keith L (TTB Blows, Bling-Bling) at http://www.supermoto...istry/139/13379

excerpts

Now you'll find a c-clip behind the speedo drive gear - remove this



Here you can just make out the BB which locates the speedo drive gear. Remove this and store carefully



used my bearning splitter to pull the drive gear off, but you can use long screwdrivers or pry bars *if you're careful*



You can just make out the notch in the drive gear that the BB uses to locate it



Now you must remove this snap ring; be sure you have _quality_ snap ring pliers. I eventually went to Snap On.