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I have an 89 Bronco. Am not getting any power to rear window. Tested switch and is good. However, when I tested the wires that actually connect to the motor, I got nothing. Also, noticed that rear window key spins 360 degrees...appears that whole assembly is broke. Where is the best test between the switch and window motor? Also, will I have to replace the whole rear key assembly? Thanks in advance for any advice!

 

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yo D,

Switch, Key Replacement

Source: by our good friend, Seabronc (Rosie, Fred W) at http://broncozone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5059

and for troubleshooting; Wiring Diagram Source: by Seabronc (Rosie, Fred W) at http://broncozone.com/topic/19828-tail-gate-wiring-diagram/

Switch, Key Info & pic; "The switch is actually 2 SPDT microswitches which aren't designed to be separated from the harness. They're riveted to the casting that slips over the lock cylinder, with a cover plate on top."

Source: by Steve83 (Steve, That dirty old truck) at

http://www.supermotors.net/clubs/superford/vehicles/registry/media/517006

Also see his TG Repair Album @ http://www.supermotors.net/registry/2742/12689

"...If you can't open the t/g, remove the inside access panel & pull these 2 rods inward. Either unclip them from the center mechanism, or pull them like bow strings to release each latch..."; read more

Source: by Steve83 (Steve, That dirty old truck) at http://www.supermotors.net/registry/media/160767

Switch, Key Paddle Info & pic: "When the tailgate lock cylinder is turned, this paddle arm swings around & presses the appropriate switch button."

Source: by Steve83 (Steve, That dirty old truck) at http://www.supermotors.net/clubs/superford/vehicles/registry/media/517069

Repair Synopsis; "...Be aware that: The tailgate latch switch on the driver's side seems to be a common problem, check it early. It keeps the window from being moved when the tailgate is open, & if not latched right, it'll keep the window from working at all. Try pushing the driver's side of the tailgate in while holding the button or key switch in the up or down position. If that makes it work, check out Steve83's How to align a Bronco Tailgate linked below. Ground for the motor connects up front, & at rest runs from there through both switches & both wires to the motor. When either switch is operated, 1 side's ground is disconnected & replaced by hot at that switch. Ground for the motor is not connected to it's case, but supplied through the wires. There are 2 seperate power sources & 2 fuses/circuit breakers for positive. One for each switch. The same 2 wires are used throughout for both up & down (Polarity is reversed by the switches). When the tailgate is open, you have to close the driver's side latch for the window to operate. Remember to open it before closing the tailgate. Testing: Does it make any noise at all? Like the motor's turning, but the window doesn't move? If so, there are torque pins in the motor's drive gear that commonly break & aren't too bad to replace. See the torque pin, Steve83's & Adrianspeeder's ... links. If it makes no noise, then it's probably in the electrical system. Fireguy50's wiring diagram is linked.... To test the electrical system, remove the access panel from inside the tailgate. Run test wires from the battery directly to the window motor connector (Yellow & red wires coming right out of the motor) to confirm that the motor works. To lower the window, it should be positive to red, & negative to yellow. Be ready for the window to move, keep hands & wires clear. Make all the connections but 1, then connect & disconnect the last wire quickly to see if it tries to go the right way. If it tries to go the wrong way, reverse the wires (This also makes it so that you can lower the window & get the tailgate open to continue testing). A- If it runs & the window moves when wired directly to the battery, perform the following tests: A.1- With both switches at rest & the latch switch closed, connect a tester between the positive test wire from the battery & each wire from the tailgate loom at the connector for the motor. Both should read 12v. If they do the ground is good. If they don't, refer to Fireguy50's wiring diagram linked above to trace it down, or tell us what you find. A.2- With the latch switch closed, connect the tester between the negative test wire from the battery & each wire from the loom at the connector for the motor. The red wire should read 12v when either switch is in the down position, the yellow wire should read 12v when either switch is in the up position. If they don't, refer to Fireguy50's wiring diagram linked above to trace it down, or tell us what you find. A.3- If everything tests ok, but it still doesn't run, there's a couple more possible causes to check: -Sometimes the connector for the tailgate motor will test ok, but not make contact when plugged in. You might try backprobing the motor side wires with the plug connected. On mine I removed it & soldered the connections. -It's possible for a damaged wire to carry enough load to show 12v on a tester, but not enough to operate the motor. Look for worn areas, especially in the loom between the body & the tailgate. B- If it runs but doesn't move when wired directly to the battery, in addition to your electrical problem, the torque pins in the drive gear are probably broken too. Run the electrical tests in section "A" above, & see the torque pin, Steve83's Tailgate Tech, & Adrianspeeder's links above for the torque pin replacement. C- If it doesn't run at all when wired directly to the battery, it sounds like it's time for a new motor. See Steve83's ...link ... & use the info for removing & replacing the motor. On my truck there were multiple bad connections, so it was hard to isolate the problem. Someone before me used a ton of crimp connectors . Basically I ended up removing them & soldering all the connections, & eliminating the corroded plug to the motor..."

Source: by ElKabong (Ken, El Kabong

Motor Torque Pin, Door, but same (also called Bushing) Info & pics in an 88 (see his picture titles)

Source: by Adrianspeeder (The OJ Special, The Lariat, The Bronco) at http://www.supermotors.net/registry/8571/28339

For more TG Tech Links, see my site @ http://www.broncolinks.com/index.php?index=478

 

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