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I bought a 1988 bronco a few weeks back. The guy had swapped the engine to a 302 carb from a fuel injected. I have had issues with it not running right in result of the swap not being as prestige as it should have been. I put a fuel pressure regulator on it and tuned the carb so it runs pretty good now but there are still some issues. Its leaking oil from somewhere as well as the rear main seal. When I hit the gas you can hear a whistle sound from what I assume to be a vacuum line not being hooked up right. I have looked for a diagram for my vacuum lines but can't seem to find one.Also, the tailgate will not open nor will the rear window operate. The ac doesn't work and I'm trying to be able to take the top off and cruise I just got outta prison and have limited funds so I'm gonna be doing everything myself. Can anyone offer some advice??

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yo AKeisler,

WELCOME!

It may be a problem finding any VACUUM Diagram for this conversion; this diagram is for the former EFI configuration; Vacuum Line Routing Diagram in a 88 5.0

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Source: by Jem270

Closest carbed diagram is Vacuum Line Routing Diagram in a 88 460

Source: by Dustin S (Dustball, Mellow Yellow, Mr. Laser Boy) at http://web.archive.org/web/20150325125333/http://ylobronc.users.superford.org/documents/460vacuumdiagram.jpg

Let us know what components in this diagram that you need  to identify

EFI Swap to Carburetor; "...It's actually a pretty simple swap. Basically all of the computer/sensor stuff can be scrapped. You won't need any of it. What you will need...a carb (obviously), a new intake manifold, a new distributor, an ignition control box (like an MSD or Mallory box...I've had good luck with MSD 6A boxes so long as they're not exposed to significant heat), and a carb fuel pump. The EFI pump is way too strong for a carb so you'll need something like a Holley carb electric pump. The ignition stuff is pretty straight forward, but for a working tach you'll need to find the tach wire in the ignition wiring harness and attach it to the positive side of your coil. I know in Mustangs this wire was green with a yellow tracer. It may be the same in your Bronco, but it's good to double check. For a carb I would use something like a Holley 600cfm double pumper or a slightly smaller Carter carb. I had a 625cfm Carter on my Mustang before I switched over to a turbo'ed EFI setup and it was a little too much for the motor. One point worth stating is that if you have an automatic transmission that has overdrive (like an AOD), you'll need an adapter for the TV linkage on the transmission since AODs never came on carbed motors. One is (or at least used to be) available for Holley carbs through Sacramento Mustang, but they retail for just under $100. If you have a 3 speed like a C4 then all you'll need to do is make sure the carb has a kickdown linkage. Mind you I got my old Carter to work with my AOD...but I think that was just sheer luck. Hope this helps...let me know if there's anything else I can clear up for you..."

Source: by Steve at en.allexperts.com

EFI Swap to Carburetor

Source: by BLADE262US, Seabronc & Justshootme84 http://broncozone.com/topic/21208-efi-to-carbhelp/page__gopid__111080&

Vacuum Leak Test, Carburetor Models; "...First, use a mechanic's stethoscope (just the hose, no steel probe) to try to localize the leak with the engine running. Check the carb base, body, hoses, or what have you. Turn the engine off, then use a small spray bottle of extra-soapy water to spray the suspected area with a moderate amount of water. Next, find a manifold vacuum port (the brake servo booster hose for example) to apply a small amount of shop air. Apply just enough air pressure to get the soap to bubble. We don't want to ruin any check valves or anything. Seal the carburetor throat(s), then watch for the bubbles. You'll find the precise location of your leak..."

Source: by niehoff

See my a Vacuum leak test Acronyms & gauge pic

http://broncozone.com/topic/23994-90-58l-getting-continuous-code-33-and-running-code-44/

Post #20

But again most are for EFI engines.

Also check HVAC components and hoses under hood esp the vac Hose to Air control valve under the hood; passenger side corner of firewall; it is alum type device as shown; http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e147/johnmcd348/Bronco%20Vacuum%20Fix/IMG_3429Small.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e147/johnmcd348/Bronco%20Vacuum%20Fix/IMG_3426Small.jpg

by JohnMcD

and under dash; "...ALL of our trucks have vacuum motors for the distribution doors, EXCEPT 87-early 88. Only those 2 years used a cable going to a compound lever for the distribution doors. ALL use vacuum for the recirc motor & ALL use cable for the temperature blend door..."

Source: by Steve

Vacuum Line Harness Pic in 80-96; "...80-96 similar, except 87-early 88 w/factory air; The 80-86 vacuum tank is a plastic ball on the R wheelwell..."

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Source: by Steve

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Top, Camper -> Removal

"...78-91 Broncos use 4 short bolts (8mm head, 6x1.00x40mm) on each bedrail & 5 long bolts (8mm head, 6x1.00x70mm) in the upper sections. All bolts thread into U-nuts, except the 2 upper corners & the 2 rear corners which use captive nut plates. The bedrail bolts each use a clip stamped "L" or "R", but the rearmost bolts use the opposite clip. The clips for the B-pillar bolts are not marked, but the smaller tab goes down. 92-96 Broncos use 5 short bolts (tamper T-40 head, 8x1.25x30mm) on each bedrail & 5 long bolts (tamper T-40 head, 8x1.25x60mm) in the upper sections. All bolts thread into U-nuts, except the 2 upper corners & the 4 rear corners which use captive nut plates. The bedrail bolts each use a clip stamped "L" or "R", except the rearmost bolts. The clips for the B-pillar bolts are not marked, but the smaller tab goes down. There are also nut plates in 4 of the camper shell bolt holes: the 2 rearmost, and the 2 outboard at the top of the cab. They're just a heavy plate (1/4"?) with a threaded hole...."

Source: by Steve

Removal w/Tool List in an 86

Source: by Sixlitre (Malcolm H, Eddie Bauer) at http://www.supermotors.net/registry/4970/19630

Figure that original fasteners have been replaced; check Home Depot or a yard Queen

Lift, one man in a 90

Source: by 90Beater (Topher, Chris) at http://bronco.tophersworld.com/writeup_top_lift.htm

for parts, see our Sponsor; Jeff's Bronco Graveyard, a.k.a. "The Graveyard,"

http://shop.broncograveyard.com/1980-96-Ford-Truck_Bronco/departments/20/

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tailgate

push your tailgate in on driver's side and try again a few times; often the Striker Bolt/Bushings are worn;; Watch out for the Dorman HELP brand stuff now....the driver/passenger door striker kit w/ bushings, 38445 are no good..bushing diameter is way off and striker frame is off as well....it will bolt-in, but aligning it for a no-rattle fit is a waste of time and possible damage to passenger or driver. the Dorman HELP tail gate striker bushings pn 38424 are a good fit & the door bushings driver/passenger bushings are incl. in this kit & fit better than the 38445 part! Made from urethane thermoplastic. assortment contains 2 each of the following sizes: 1/2" I.D. x 5/8" and 1/2" I.D. x 1"; or get them from a Ford dealer for more $ but better quality

Source: by miesk5 at Ford Bronco Zone Forums

Troubleshooting Synopsis; "...The tail gate circuit is pretty easy to resolve with a meter. Attached is a diagram of the circuit. Note that there are two fuses which you may have already found out. One powers the dash switch which is powered only when the key is in RUN or ACC. The other powers the tail gate switch and that line is hot at all times. If the motor is definitely good, (which can be verified by using a set of jumper leads directly to the motor connector). Once it is verified that the motor works then the common problems are: 1. The Latch Safety switch in the left side latch, This is often a problem when the tail gate fails from both switches.(you can pull the connector and jumper it out, which many people leave permanently jumpers out). The problem can be as easy as the latch needs adjustment. So if the jumper makes it work then either leave it jumped, adjust the latching stud for a tighter fit, or replace the latch switch if testing indicates it is bad. The function of the switch is to make sure the tail gate is latched before putting the window up. I like it bypassed because it makes it easy to get the window out of the way when working inside the tail gate. I think I'm smart enough to put the window back down before closing the tail gate . The only suggestion if leaving it jumped is to support the window if it is in the up position with the tail gate down. Else it could be broken by someone leaning on it. 2. The ground return for the tail gate switch uses the same two lines the dash switch does, (the grounding point is under the dash. The dash switch changes the function of the two leads running to the tail gate window motor by grounding one and putting 12V on the other. The tail gate switch uses the two leads for the ground connection, (it requires the dash switch to be in the neutral position in order to work). Depending on the year of the truck there are 2 or 3 connectors involved that often get corroded, sometimes to the point that the wires break off the connector. In your truck, there is on connector behind the left tail light, the next common failing connector is the one on the left side of the rear frame crossover member, (it is gray, if you can still see the color, and just under and behind the bumper). So to make it short, if you can operate the motor with a set of jumper leads and the window goes up and down that way, then the problem is a connection or the Latch Safety Switch. If you can't get the tail gate open to work on it, crawl in the back and remove the tail gate panel and find the motor leads attached along the bottom edge of the opening. Disconnect them and use a long set of leads or another battery in the back with you to test the motor. Once the window is down you can open the gate to make it more comfortable to work on the problem. In the diagram you will see a black with white striped wire that goes to the tail gate key switch, you should have 12V there at all times. To get at it, you will need the window in the up position. The other two leads, (with the dash switch in the center position) should indicate that they are grounded when doing a continuity check of them). You can also check the entire path from dash switch to the tail gate key switch by using a meter and probing the wires the purple with light green stripe and the dark green with light green stripe. Have someone (with the key in RUN or ACC) moving the Dash switch from UP to Down while you check those leads for 12V. If you don't get 12V then the problem is in a connector between the two switches or a broken wire (a broken wire would most likely be where they transition between the body and tail gate due to constant flexing). The procedure would be; 12V missing on one of the wires, move back to the connector behind the tail light (missing there), move to the connector on the cross member (missing there) move back to the connectors in front, until you find where you have 12V on the line you are probing. Once you find 12V the problem is between the last point probed and where you find 12V..."

Source: by Seabronc (Rosie, Fred W) at http://broncozone.com/topic/7671-tailgate-window-switch/

"...If the glass is clear of the shell, but you can't open the t/g, remove the inside access panel & pull these 2 rods inward. Either unclip them from the center mechanism, or pull them like bow strings to release each latch. Make sure the glass isnt so high that it engages the campers groove, or it could break. If it wont come down, unbolt the slides from the glass, or the motor from the regulator to lower the glass..." Miesk5 Note, the bars are referred to as the Latch Rods in most diagrams

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"...The Bronco tailgate window circuit is a common (Ford) polarity-reversing circuit with 2 switches. Each switch has its own power feed; the dash switch through the ignition switch (key-on only) and the tailgate key switch from the battery (always hot). The dash switch normally holds both motor wires to ground, and the key switch normally holds the motor wires to the dash switch wires. When either is operated, it sends one of the wires hot, powering the motor (assuming the latch switch is closed). When operated the other way, the polarity is reversed, reversing the motor's direction. Neither switch is a "master" because neither will work if the other is in the opposite position..."

Source: by Steve83

Source: by Steve http://www.supermotors.net/registry/media/160767

see http://broncozone.com/topic/20836-rear-tailgate-wont-open/

As for the other issues; I think some should be posted separately; let's see what others here suggest.

 
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yo,

Just in-case you viewed my replay above without logging-in, I did update it to add tailgate, etc. info

So, instead of doing that again; here is the AC Diagnosis by http://www.polarbearinc.com/Trouble1.htm

Component pics in 80-96; "...Separate suction & discharge hoses were used until ~'92. Mid-years (~'86-90) used square-drive shutoff valves at the compressor ports. Early models ('80~84) used an automatic shutoff valve & filter in the connection between the condenser & the condenser-to-evaporator hose. The low pressure switch screws onto an automatic valve on the accumulator. R-134a models have a hi-press. cutout switch on the discharge hose..."

http://www.supermotors.net/registry/media/769335

TSB 89-14-10 A/C Clutch Cycling Diagnosis

IF THE IMAGE IS TOO SMALL, click it.

ISSUE: Poor air conditioning cooling caused by low or no refrigerant charge often results in unnecessary replacement of the clutch cycling pressure switch. The switch is designed to work on system pressure. It closes at about 46 psi and opens at about 24.5 psi. It has a normal cycle (on and off) rate of 2 to 5 cycles per minute.

ACTION: If an inoperative or fast cycling pressure switch is found, use the following diagnostic charts before replacing the pressure switch.

READ MORE

http://www.supermotors.net/registry/media/491916

Source: by Steve

and by Ford from 96 Bronco-F-Series Workshop Manual (PARTIAL)

http://www.diesel-dave.com/vehic/manual/stj/stjleft.htm

Same as 95 and most earlier years exc. for OBD II, 4WABS (93-96); ABS (87-92); Air Bag (94-96); 3 ***** Automatic Locking Hubs (Built from May 95 through 96) and a few other items

(still need time to go through all pages to confirm other differences)

Leak Detection with UV/blue light, General (mostly ad, but good DIY info tips)

Source: by http://web.archive.org/web/20110814063701/http://www.tracerline.com/faq.html

Flushing Procedures Service Tip TSB 95-18-4 for 85-95 Bronco, Econoline, F-150-350 Series; 85-90 Bronco II; 85-96 Ranger; 86-95 Aerostar; 91-96 Explorer; 93-95 Villager; 95-96 Windstar, etc.

Source: by Ford via http://www.performanceprobe.com/misc/tsb.php?article=95-18-04

The high and low pressure ports are different sizes so whatever one your can fits.

by Dustball

Low Pressure Port Location pic in an 89; "...start on the passenger side. See that blue cap? That's where the AC is filled. Follow the line back to where it runs into that black box..."

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Source: by Brahma502

Low Pressure & High Pressure Port Location pic in an 89; "...High side port is on the drivers side off the condensor. Follow the line from the compressor to the condensor, its right next to the coolant overflow/window wash bottle. The low side is next to the accumulator which is that black can on the passenger side near the firewall. Follow the hose to the can..."

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m115/DazednConfuzedV8/aircon.jpg

Source: by itsacrazyasian

R-12 To R-134a Retrofit Kit Availability, Vehicles With Factory Installed A/C Only TSB 98-4-8 for 88-93 Bronco, Econoline, F Super Duty, F-150-350 Series, Ranger; 86-93 Aerostar, 88-90 Bronco II; 91-93 Explorer, 93 Villager; 85-95 F Series, etc.

Source: by Ford via http://www.performanceprobe.com/misc/tsb.php?article=98-04-08

Conversion in an 89; "...I have converted mine from R12 to R134A, and it cools the truck much faster. The first thing you need to do is replace ALL of your "O" rings. **** them with a small amount of Vasoline, USE NOTHING ELSE. Since it hasn't been used in a while, go ahead and replace the Expansion Valve, and the Reciever/Drier. You can pick all of these up at your local Autozone(the O rings come in an assortment pack, so get 3 packs to make sure you have what you need). Replace them now, it WILL save you money in the end. Then, you will need to go to an A/C service center to have your system Vaccumed out to a negative 3 lb's. This will clean out any R12 left in the system, and allow you to get enough R134A in there to cool properly. Most of the problems you hear about R134A, is because they didn't draw the system down to negative pressure. You will need to disconnect the harness that connects to your Reciever/Drier, and make a female to male spade jumper, to bypass the Low Refrigerant switch(you'll see what to do when you pull it), to get the compressor to come on. Install the adapters, and charge it up following the instructions. Don't forget to reconnect your Low Refrigerant switch when finished. Depending on your system type, you may need more refrigerant than the kit supplies. I had to add about a half extra can to get up to the proper pressure. You can get this kit at Walmart, and Autozone too. Why wait on shipping to save 50 cent ?..."

Source: by sweepersrgr8 at Ford Bronco Zone Forums http://broncozone.com/topic/20771-r12r134a/

Interdynamics EZ Chill R-12 to R-134a Recharge and Retrofit Kit

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/interdynamics-ez-chill-r-12-to-r-134a-recharge-and-retrofit-kit-rkr-8/9220004-P

or;

RED TEK R12a Refrigerant Recharge Kit

PRE-CHARGE INSTALLATION

http://www.redtek.com/win_12a_chargeinstall.html

Check Local Stores incl Wal Mart, etc. and on-line;

http://www.amazon.com/RED-TEK-R12a-Refrigerant-Recharge/dp/B00DJDYORU

Filtering Refrigerant After A/C Compressor Replacement Service Tips TSB 98-12-5 for 80-96 Bronco, 80-97 F Super Duty, 80-98 Econoline, F-150, F-250, F-350; 83-98 Ranger, 84-90 Bronco II, 86-97 Aerostar, etc.

Source: by Ford via http://www.performanceprobe.com/misc/tsb.php?article=98-12-05

 
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Okay, I got the engine running superb. I had changed the brakes before and there seemed to be air in the lines. Turned out one of the bleeder valves was clogged and another one was stripped. I got everything fixed and bled the brakes. Still had a hiss in the brakes and they didn't work properly. Turned out the brake booster was bad so I changed it out. Now the brakes have no hiss and they work but not as they should. They seem to have no pressure. I press the pedal and it goes down with ease and ends up engaging close to the floor but still doesn't seem to have pressure there. I bled them again and nothing changes. If the vehicle is running but at a stop I can pump them and it seems to work a little better but as soon as I drive it pumping doesn't seem of any help. They actually work better now than they used to but am wondering why they are so loose....

 

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You may have to go through bleeding the master cylinder procedure.  When you bleed the brake lines, did you start at the right rear, then left rear, then right front and finally the left front.  Also, how much fluid did you pull through each point.  Sometimes you need to pull enough to make sure you clear the entire line.  Using either a vacuum pump or a small catch reservoir to make sure no air gets back into the line.

Good luck,

:)>-

 

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