CB radio antenna on spare tire rack?

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I was leaving Gander Mountain today when I saw another Bronco with an antenna mounted between the tire and tailgate on his spare rack.

It was slighly taller than his truck and black in color. Looked really sharp. Anyone have their antenna mounted in this area?

Reason I like it, is because the mounting portion of it was hidden. It was also out of the way and ontop of it all, placed in a neat area that kinda gave the truck some character.

Now I don't know much about CB radios to be honest.. and I also like to maintain a good look for my truck. So mounting an antenna on the roof, or in the hood jam is not my style. I'm not trying to get the maximum range on my CB but enough to get me by on the trail with some friends..or convoy up to the camp site on the highway..

Would this location give me a good amount of added boost? Or am I better off sticking with my handheld CB with it's own attached antenna because the $$$ for an external antenna vs. amount of gain isn't there?

 

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yo Adam,

Here is how -Spazmatic- (Ziggy Moto, Kennedy) mtd. it on tire rack w/Cable Routing Through Tail Light Area in a 95

http://www.supermotors.net/clubs/superford/vehicles/registry/9982/31135

Click NEXT to see more...

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more ant links in my site under;

AUDIO & VIDEO; Antenna

& CB

CB Radio Tech-Docs Index Source: by firestik.com

especially;

Choosing a CB Antenna

Basic Rules:

Top loaded (helical wire-wounds) antennas perform better than center loaded antennas, center loaded antennas perform better than base loaded antennas.

Taller antennas perform better than shorter antennas.

Antennas mounted higher perform better than if mounted lower.

Single antennas perform better when mounted as close to center as possible on metal vehicles.

Base loaded antennas cannot be co-phased with satisfactory results.

Fiberglass and aluminum vehicles, or those with little available ground plane, need co-phased or "no ground plane" antennas systems.

The physical length of the antenna should be determined by the likelihood of repetitive hitting of overhead objects and/or the type and strength of the antenna mount itself.

At least two-thirds of the antenna should be above a vehicles roof line for optimum performance.

If the antenna/mount combination is available in a kit form, you will normally save money by purchasing it as a kit.

The bandwidth of the antenna should always meet or exceed the needs of a 40 channel CB.

READ MORE

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS & ANSWERS

The antenna I bought claims to be pre-tuned. Do I need to do anything?

A Yes. You must tune your antenna to your vehicle. The antenna is pre-tuned on a test bench to make certain it is within the general frequency specifications. It will be somewhat different on your vehicle because of the difference in the ground plane and surroundings. Always check your antenna ... even if you move it from one location on your vehicle to another.

Q Can I use any kind of wire to hook my antenna to my radio?

A No! For single antenna installations we recommend RG-58 A/U type coaxial cable. If you are running dual antennas (co-phased) you must use RG-59 A/U type coax. Make sure you buy the best cable too. We see numerous problems caused by low grade coax. Don't cut corners when it comes to coax.

Q Is the length of the coax cable important?

A We find that it is very important ... especially with high performance top-loaded antennas. Your safest bet is to use 18 feet (5.5 meters) coaxial leads on all of your CB installations.

Q I only needed 9 feet of coax to go from my radio to my antenna. How should I handle the excess?

A What ever you do, do not roll it into a small convenient coil. It will become an RF choke. If you cannot let it lie loose under a seat or in a headliner, wrap it into a yarn-like skein of about 12 to 16 inches, put a wire tie in the center and tuck it under your dash, seat, etc.

Q My system has very high SWR, but I only talk very short distances. Since distance isn't important, should I be concerned about high SWR?

A Absolutely! High SWR will limits distance and may cause serious damage to your transmitter. The time spent tuning your antenna is time well spent. Don't take the chance.

Q What is are the most common errors you find on CB installations?

A In order of most to least common, 1) antenna not tuned to vehicle, 2) mounting locations chosen for convenience or appearance versus effectiveness, 3) coax cable ... low quality, worn out, wrong length, or severely pinched, 4) standard antennas used on vehicle with no ground plane instead of special no-ground-plane system.

Q There are a lot of different antennas available for CB. Are some better than others?

A Without a doubt, top loaded antennas are better than center loaded antennas, and center loaded antenna are better than base loaded antennas. Also, within each style, the taller the antenna the better it will generally perform.

Q How important is it to have the antenna mount grounded to the vehicle?

A Unless you are using a no-ground plane system, it is extremely important. Ungrounded mounts will usually cause SWR to be high across all channels.

Q I am using a Firestik no-ground plane (NGP) antenna system and the mirror arm I mounted it to is grounded to the vehicle. Do I need to insulate it?

A No! We already took care of that with the design. The NGP systems will operate the same regardless of whether or not the mount is grounded.

Q I have a couple of different antennas and I've noticed that there are times when one works better over long distances than the other. However, it isn't consistent, Why is this happening?

A Every antenna design has a different angle of radiation and it stays pretty constant unless the antenna is moved. What keeps changing is the ionosphere height. Your signal is bouncing off of the ionosphere and the varying height of it changes the angle at which the signal bounces back to earth. You have no control over this. An antenna might work long distances on one day, and not the next.

Q I've tried to find some books that will teach me how to set my SWR, process coax connectors and offer some tips on antenna installations. Most of what I've seen is pointed towards the engineer or technician. Do you know where I can find some help that is written in layman terms?

A We know the problem. Firestik wrote a simple book titled "Measuring SWR and Things Every CB'er Should Know" to help you better understand antenna installations. The entire contents of that publication is available on this web site under various headings that are accessable from our Tech Help page. Printed copies are available from the factory for $3.00. If you purchased a Firestik antenna or complete antenna kit, send in the UPC and $1.00 to obtain the booklet.

&

"...There are many things that a CB operator can do to maximize performance under any set of conditions.

Adjust the SWR

Use high quality coaxial cable

Use top loaded antennas

Use 5/8 wave antennas

Select a longer antenna

Mount antenna higher

Use antenna(s) with proven history of performance

Clean coax and power connections

Make sure other station has quality components

Use in off-peak periods

Use power microphone

Have radio peaked by qualified technician ..."

My RS hand-held is ok for 2-3 miles street use in farm areas; in ridge/mtn area I may as yell roll window down and yell.

But it is a VERY VALUABLE tool in those Cell Phone dry areas in emergencies We carried CBs while in one sandy area about 10 yrs ago and it did save a pal.

GL!

 
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Thanks guys!

Really great info you posted..I think I'm going to add this to the list of "mods"..

 

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p/s im a cdl driver otr for 10yrs now,i would recomend going with a magnetic mount wilson antenna or with a mounted thruogh the roof antenna,if you mount an cb antenna close to metal frame or body it could give a high swr reading which could damage your radio. I run a connex cx-4300-300 with a stricker antenna along with having to wire this thing straight to the battery(that was expensive)pushing 400 watts.my radio compared is about medium.anyway for your application please try to mnt on the roof,a wilson ant is a good ant for the price.let me know b4 you are going to buy i might be able to help,like with what type of radio and swr and ant.

 

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I was leaving Gander Mountain today when I saw another Bronco with an antenna mounted between the tire and tailgate on his spare rack.

It was slighly taller than his truck and black in color. Looked really sharp. Anyone have their antenna mounted in this area?

Reason I like it, is because the mounting portion of it was hidden. It was also out of the way and ontop of it all, placed in a neat area that kinda gave the truck some character.

Now I don't know much about CB radios to be honest.. and I also like to maintain a good look for my truck. So mounting an antenna on the roof, or in the hood jam is not my style. I'm not trying to get the maximum range on my CB but enough to get me by on the trail with some friends..or convoy up to the camp site on the highway..

Would this location give me a good amount of added boost? Or am I better off sticking with my handheld CB with it's own attached antenna because the $$$ for an external antenna vs. amount of gain isn't there?
 

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when you guys mount off the side of the truck you will get a higher swr,the higher swr is going to effect how far your signal gets out which will also effect how much signal you receive,and it will also effect the way your radio talks meaning with clarity or static,try not to use a fiberglass type antenna they dont talk as good,with the wilson 5000 magnetic mnt after you get it all set up the whole top of this thing unscrews and i toss mine in the back of my pickup,and they give you a small weather cap for the mnt when the antenna is not installed.when you guys go by the semis notice how the ones with the big antennas are mounted and some are angled away from the body.you can go talk to these guys at truck stops and ask questions about the radios and why they mntd like that,alot of times you can get good deals on radios there,try not to go over 100 watts that will start messing with other electronics

p/s you guys want to get the lowest swr possible

 
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Great info Chase!

I'll take some of that into consideration. But like I said.. I have a handheld CB radio with a lil rubber antenna thats about 10" long.. I'm sure it'll do fine within a mile or so. I just wanted something to give me an added boost for my trail buds. I'm not going for maximum range..just where I can get ahold of my buddy 2 miles up the trail.

 

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