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0808091238-00.jpg'90 full size w/ manual hubs and shift. 6" susp and 3" body lift. B/W 1356 t-case.When it goes into 4 low it will pop out under a load. Started about the same time that I tore out the ring and pinion climbing hills. Already rebuilt the rear end with the same 4:10 gearing which I don't think is enough for the 38.5/15/15 boggers. Shifter is not hitting the floor pan and linkage appears to be in good condition. I have heard that the shift indicator plug has a spring ball that can wear out and cause this in other types of vehicles but I don't know about a 1356. Any help would be greatly appretiated!
 

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yo MC,

For now, EZiest first;

High Fluid Level & Low Transmission Fluid Level And Or Shift And Or Engagement Concerns TSB 97-12-13 for 87-96 Bronco & many others; "...transmission may have low fluid level and/or may have either a shift concern and/or an engagement concern. This may be caused by transmission fluid leaking from the transmission into the transfer case through the transfer case input seal. Replace the transfer case input seal..." read more Source: by Ford via thedieselstop.com

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"...Manually shifted units usually exhibit wear on the selector shaft in two areas (figure 5). Shaft wear in any form will make the unit disengage or have very sloppy shifting. The star shaped end of the shaft where it mates with the shift cam is also prone to wear. Borg Warner released an updated shift cam with an Allen ***** to tighten up the fit and retain the manual lever. Look at the section of the manual lever that rides in the case, which is also subject to wear from dirt and two dissimilar metals in close contact. Always inspect the bore of the case for excessive wear. Figure 6 shows the bore is worn over size and will no longer hold the selector shaft in position. The only way to fix this is to do some machining and sleeve the bore, or to replace the case altogether..." (pics are thumbnails) Source: by Mike W at atra.com via web.archive.org Slow to Load

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1356 Manual Shift, No Movement or Neutral Position Tip/Saver Spacer & pic; "...Many 1987-1995 Ford F series 4x4 trucks and full size Bronco owners with 1356 manual shift transfer cases commonly complain of a "no movement" or an occasional neutral condition. This condition is usually caused by the linkage wearing the transfer case at its point of contact (1356 manual shift models only). Sonnax offers a case saver spacer 36605-01. This case saver spacer goes between the shift selector cam and the case and requires no special tools to install. The spacer moves the cam closer to the shift fork, thus preventing and/or eliminating: 1) one or both shift forks from becoming disengaged from the shift cam, 2) "slop"from the linkage caused by a worn linkage bore in front case half. This item is a specific size/thickness not commonly found in ordinary flat washers. This repair is quick, easy and a lot less expensive than repairing or replacing the case. Model: 36605-01..." Source: by transmichigan.com via miesk5 at Ford Bronco Zone Forums

"This is a handy kit to repair that 1356 in your Ford that has been jumping out of gear, or just plain won't go any longer due to range fork wear. We supply to you in this kit a new Range Fork, Range sleeve (38T or 31T you need to count it and tell us!), Oil pump kit, and seal kit. This will take care of most 1356 shifting problems, but more serious damage may exsist, check with a professionsl driveline technician before installing this or any kit to be sure you are addressing the REAL problem. TOLL FREE see site Part No: RSG1356RKWOP

Price: $189.95"

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1356 Manual Shift Parts Break-Out Diagram w/nomenclature Source: by Steve83 (Steve, That dirty old truck) at SuperMotors.net

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BW 1356 Manual Exploded

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1 7045 Shaft Nut

2 7B368 Output Shaft Yoke Washer

3 7052 Oil Seal

4 7B215 Yoke to ****** Seal

5 -- Extension (Rear Spline) Cap, Bearing (Rear Yoke/******) (Serviced As Part of 7085 Assembly)

6 7085 Extension Assembly (Rear Spline) Cap Assembly, Bearing (Rear Yoke/******)

7 7A443 Bolt and Washer Assembly (1989 and Later)

8 -- ****** (Rear ******) (Serviced As Part of 7B214 Assembly)

9 7917 Ring, Snap

10 7025 Bearing

11 7917 Ring, Snap

12 7100 Shift Collar Hub

13 7127 Caged Needle Bearing

14 7A010 Plug, Pipe

15 7917 Ring, Retaining

16 7D164 Lockup Hub

17 7D126 Spring, Lockup

18 7106 Lockup Collar

19 7177 Sprocket, Drive

20 7A210 Hose

21 382486-S Clamp, Hose

22 7A291 Transfer Housing to Case Bolt

23 7E215 Retainer, Pump

24 7A152 Cover, Pump

25 7A149 Housing, Pump

26 7A250 Pin, Pump

27 7A205 Spring, Pump Pin

28 7061 Output Shaft

29 7100 Shift Collar Hub

30 7A398 Front Planet

31 7C122 Ring, Retaining

32 7A153 Ring Gear

33 7A098 Filter, Oil

34 -- Gear, PTO (with PTO Only)

35 7917 Ring, Retaining

36 -- Ring, Retaining (Part of 7B215)

37 7166 Case Deflector Gasket (with PTO Only)

38 7165 Transfer Case Cover (with PTO Only)

39 381673-S Bolt (with PTO Only)

40 7034 Vent

41 7E440 4WD Indicator Switch

42 -- Setscrew (Part of 7E440)

43 -- Fork, Reduction (Serviced As Part of 7289 Assembly)

44 -- Facing, Shift Fork (Serviced As Part of 7289 Assembly)

45 7289 Ford Assembly Reduction

46 7235 Roller, Cam (Service As Part of 7289 Assembly)

47 -- Pin (Part of 7289)

48 7C430 Facing, Shift Fork

49 -- Retainer (Serviced As Part of 7289 Assembly)

50 7289 Fork Assembly, Shift, 2W-4W

51 7240 Shift Rail

52 7219 Shift Fork Spring

53 7C349 Spring, Detent

54 7C191 Bushing, Detent

55 7F063 Cam, Shift

56 7288 Shifter Shaft Seal

57 7B106 Lever, Shaft and Pin Assembly

58 7005 Case Front

59 -- Pin Dowel (Part of 7005)

60 7L027 Oil Pan Magnet

61 7917 Ring, Retaining

62 7061 Output Shaft

63 7177 Sprocket, Driven

64 7119 ****** Washer

65 7917 Ring, Retaining

66 7A029 Chain, Drive

67 -- Yoke (Serviced As Part of 7B214 Assembly)

68 7005 Case Rear

F2TZ-7210-K 4X4 Shifter Assembly (Mazda R2, ZFLD)

F2TZ-7210-N 4X4 Shifter Assembly (E4OD)

F2TZ-7210-P 4X4 Shifter Assembly (T18, C6, AOD, ZFHD)

F2TZ-7B051-A Control Rod (Mazda R2, ZFLD 7.25" OC)

F2TZ-7B051-E Control Rod (E4OD)

F2TZ-7B051-C Control Rod (T18, C6)

F2TZ-7B051-D Control Rod (AOD)

F2TZ-7B051-B Control Rod (ZFHD)

 

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