trans swap

[mikef150]

i changed a 92f150-302 auto 2 a 5 speed but the starter 4 the from the 5 speed sounds rough @ the starter from the auto sounds good but u can hear it not releasing i left the auto shim plate on there ?

 

[miesk5]

yo Mike!

WELCOME TO DA ZONE!

Did you go from E4OD to ZF 5 speed manual with overdrive or E4OD to M5OD

Was flywheel from Bronco removed & replaced?

I believe the man tranny and auto tranny starters are different.

E4OD to M5OD Swap & Parts List in a 93

Source: by Havack (Ben P) at broncodata.com via web.archive.org

This is what Ben H wrote on his swap to da M5OD; "The flywheel must, unless you are willing to buy a new starter, match the year group of your truck. As I found out an ‘89 flywheel will work in a ‘93 truck, but you must convert to an ‘89 starter, and starter wiring..."

See more of his swap here http://web.archive.org/web/20040421202625/http://www.broncodata.com/white/wpconversion.htm

It takes time to Load since it's archived

GL!

 

[mikef150]

the 5 speed was out of a 95f150 but not sure of # i also used the flywheel of the 95 and that starter sounds rough 2

 

[mikef150]

i got the # off of the tag or bar code plate it was f1ta-Gc-B873317 on the 95f150 and was wondering if there is any difference from 92-95 starter for man trans

 

[miesk5]

Mike,

This is by Rock Auto; it shows Different Starter Part #'s for the 95 F 150 for auto & man trannys;

& Ford shows diff PNs for same;

http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/CatalogResults.aspx?y=1995&m=Ford&mo=F-150#&&/wEXAQUHaGlzdG9yeQUEdHJ1ZbeJQwrDnn1brKWLK+LH7viyyDAr

1995 Ford F-150

Image Part Name: Starter Motor

Manufactured By: Motorcraft

Description: 4.9L, 5.0L & 5.8L; M/T; Service starter assembly

Part Number: 11002 (SA-793-RM)

vs.

1995 Ford F-150

Image Part Name: Starter Motor

Manufactured By: Motorcraft

Description: 4.9L, 5.0L & 5.8L; A/T; Service starter assembly

Part Number: 11002 (SA-769-ARM)

Why not get all of them tested for free at a local Autonmotive Elecric Shop? We have a few in our rural area so look em up in phone book.

 

[mikef150]

yo i checked the starters they r good i think its the plate shim 95% sure i was thinking of just cutting it out and place the other on it 2 keep from pulling it a again? wondering if any 1 has tried it or if i am even close

 

[miesk5]

yo Mike.

sorry for the delay

I haven't seen any more on this problem in the swap by Ben P that I posted previously.

All I know is that some people install HELP brand starter shims to move the starter further away from the flywheel, when where the starter fails to disengage

This is by powermaster;

If the starter pinion is being damaged, the gear meash is too sloppy. The pinion needs to be closer to the ring gear. If there are no shims installed, then material needs to be machined off of the mounting surface of the starter. Optionally, shim the outboard starter mounting bolt only. This will roll the starter towrd the ring gear, tightening its engagement.

 

[mikef150]

sorry 4 the late reply but i fixed it pulled the trans and replaced the shim plate so i found out it takes the manaul plate