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pstar6744

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All right guys i need some insight.. I bought a 89 bronco, the tailgate is rusted somewhat, i tried to open the rear window with the controler switch in the front and nothing.. I went to the back and opened it with the key and it worked, but of course it went down only about 3-4 inches, up and down.. i got exited and thought if i keep making it go up and down it would go a little farther but no, it stoped working.

I took the top off to try to pull the window down manually and it doesnt budge, and i cant open the tailgate i pull the lever and it wont budge either. my worry is more for the window..

help me out guys

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I just replaced the window motor, well sort of, in mine. Mine worked both with the switch in the front and the tailgate key before it decided to crap out on me. So, you might have an electrical issue with the switch up front. Anyway, the first thing to do is to take off the access panel on the tailgate. After that hopefully the window is up enough to get to the bolts(3 of them) on the window motor since if the window is down you can't get to the motor.

I would take the motor out first and see if it runs without it being hooked up to the window e.g. just hook it to the power and run the switch. The motor was fine for me... the problem was the plastic gears and bushings that were worn out. I replaced those and re-installed it and works great.

After you get the motor out you can move the window up and down without problem.

You should be able to pull the arm levers for the tailgate latches so that you can drop the tailgate.

When you go and re-install the motor, move the window down, drop the tailgate, pull the window up with the tailgate down, then re-install the motor. This makes life a lot eaiser.

Word of caution: I bought a window motor on ebay. Looked exactly like the one I pulled out however there were some very small differences that made the bolt patterns not line up. I got around it not fitting by pulling the plastic gears and bushings out of the new motor assembly and putting them in the old one.

Hope that helps! There should be some pictures on here of if. Let me know I can try and snap some of mine if you want.

 
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thanks ill try it out today .. ill get back to you if any questions.

 
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i was able to take the motor out.. then as you said the window should be able to go down by hand , but nope . i tried pulling it down and it wont budge. i dont want to pull to hard and braking the glass. there is rust on the tailgate somewhat .. is there a special way on pulling the glass down?

 

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i was able to take the motor out.. then as you said the window should be able to go down by hand , but nope . i tried pulling it down and it wont budge. i dont want to pull to hard and braking the glass. there is rust on the tailgate somewhat .. is there a special way on pulling the glass down?

I thought I replied to your question but I'm not sure cause it didn't show up in the forum.... did you get it? Anyway I attached some pics here of my tailgate... Does it look like yours?

Probably have to enlarge them a bit to see my annotations of the pieces.

Ed

Bronco_Tailgate2.JPGBronco_Tailgate1.JPG

 

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Also, when ever you get to the point to put the motor back in... the window won't roll up with the tailgate down so you have to push in the latches so that it thinks it is up, if I remember correctly. But your not there yet so lets not worry about it. ;-) See if you can get that stupid window down first with the motor out.... maybe spray some wd40 on the gears and pieces that look like they move.

I'm shooting in the dark here cause mine moved very easily with the motor taken out.

 

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So where are we on this window deal? Sounds to me like you have two possible problems. One, the interior switch. You said you were able to move the window up and down a few inches with the key, but not the interior switch. That's a different can 'o worms, so we'll tackle that later. You then said you were able to get the window to go up and down a little with the key in the back. If it's not going all the way up and down, your old motor may be running on it's last leg. Probably needs to be replaced (a very common thing on Broncos)....but don't know for sure. The back-glass has two regulator arms that attach to the glass via a pair of channels that are pop-riveted to the glass. With the motor out, there shouldn't be anything holding the glass in place. The gear on the motor fits into the grooves on the regulator arm. That's the only thing holding the glass up or down. Has the tailgate been bent in any way? The channels on the right and left side of the interior of the gate may be bent, preventing the window to move up or down too far. You don't want to put a lot of pressure on that glass, because it WILL break easily. I would try to lower the gate, have a buddy help you secure the glass by holding it on the top to keep too much gravity off the glass, and you manually pull the glass down from the inside of the access panel by carefully pulling down on the control arms. Spray PB Blaster or something on all moving parts to loosen it all up. If it won't budge, get back to us...but I think it will. Once you've got the window moving freely, try to reinstall the motor and see if it will go up and down. If it won't, it's time for a new motor. If it will, try to move it again from the interior switch. Then we'll go from there. Good luck.

Snowman

 
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everything you guys said makes perfect "cents". yeah the tailgate looks fine no bends that i know of. i took the motor out and pushed the glass and its not going down, ill wd-40 it today and tom, so it soaks in and try it out. ill let you know on the results..

thanks :wacko:

 

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