New Warn Manual Hubs

[hoghappy]

Fuse is good, wiring looks intact...I wiggled and it didn't help.

Motor housing has a red and white wire and the harness has a mess of wires going into something on the transfer case attached to the motor housing? What should I hit with a hammer...lol $-)

Robert

 

[Roadkill]

I'm afraid I have outlasted my usefullness on this matter. /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> With out any reference material, I would just be taking guesses at it and sending you on wild goose chases. (not that it wouldn't be fun to sit 5,000 miles away and get someone to tear their truck apart looking for the flux capicitor > , but that's not what we do here)

Hang tight, I'm sure someone here will have the exact information you need. Good luck! /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

 

[hoghappy]

Out of desperation I took a hammer to the motor casing and now my light works.....hmmmmm....gota love that good ole mark 2 hammer!

So what is most likely the problem and what is the cure?

Robert

 

[Roadkill]

Could be that it was just "stuck" from sitting unused. Don't know if it was the motor stuck or the t-case itself. When you tapped it, the vibration was what it needed to free itself up. Starters get stuck like that sometimes and need a good whack to get going. You may have no more problems with it, or it could get to point where tapping it no longer helps.

 

[miesk5]

The motor's brushes may have had carbon dust around the rotor poles; the hammer job is a typical off road fix; or there is corrosion inside the connector(s); or the motor position sensors were slightly off whack and da whack un-whacked em...

for future ref; Transfer Case, Borg Warner 1356 Electric Shift Motor Troubleshooting & Repair Source: by Dustin

 

[Roadkill]

Miesk5 to the resue again! Excellent article; it is now added to my "Favorites" list. B)

 

[miesk5]

ty and good luck to you!

forgot to add that:

Transfer Case, Borg Warner 1356 Electric Shift Motor, Wrong Type Installed in 93 Recall info, 93V089000

1993 FORD BRONCO POWER TRAIN:TRANSFER CASE (4-WHEEL DRIVE)

Recall Date: 05/17/1993

Summary:

THE TRANSFER CASES HAVE BEEN BUILT WITH THE WRONG ELECTRIC SHIFT MOTOR. THE TRANSFER CASES CAN SLIP OUT OF THE 4 X 4 HIGH GEAR POSITION DURING COASTING IN FORWARD GEARS OR WITH POWER APPLIED IN REVERSE GEAR.

Consequence:

IF THIS OCCURS, THE VEHICLE CAN ROLL FREELY AS IF INNEUTRAL POSITION REGARDLESS OF THE TRANSMISSION GEAR SELECTOR POSITION. THIS CANRESULT IN LOSS OF VEHICLE CONTROL AND AN ACCIDENT.

Remedy:

REPLACE DEFECTIVE TRANSFER CASES WITH THE CORRECT VERSION.

Potential Units Affected: 1389

Notes: FORD BRONCO

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Ford's Letter to NHTSA on this with more info

Note; not that this is what is in his Bronco.....

 

[Yardape]

I just read your whole post again, it seems you had some confusion as to what the buttons actually do. I haven't read whether or not anyone has explained this to you or not but it seems you had the impression that the buttons controlled the hubs. They do not, they control the motor on the transfercase that ingages the 4wd. When the tranfercase engages and spins the front axles it in turn engages the front automatic hubs. All that you did by installing locking hubs is you added another step to putting your truck into 4wd. Now you have to manually lock your front hubs, that is the only thing that is different. The auto hubs are notorious for failing. The manual hubs are far more reliable and are a good choice so you didnt waste any money. Glad to hear that your motor only needed some tapping to be brought back to life, experience has proven to me that once you have started tapping electric motors to get them to work it wont be long before you will be replacing them. It says in the owners manual to engage the 4wd once a month or so, this keeps everything lubricated and in your case would have saved your motor from seizing up, but in turn might be worn out now. Now that it works, try to engage your 4wd like the manual says, at least once a month

 

[hoghappy]

Wow...thanks guys!

Yes...I think I had a moment of stupidity....I did think the buttons were to engage the hubs. But I also thought that they were preventing me from getting into 4wd. All this auto stuff got me confused. :-& #036; Duh...no floor shift...I should have figured it out! :blink:

Ok...I will be sure and have more off road fun and not get that motor stuck again from non use.

I guess the odds are about 7% that mine is one with a incorrect motor and then it may have been fixed. I recon I will drive her the way she is till she dies.

One more question on the manual hubs. What will happpen if I forget to disengage the hubs? Would it hurt them to be engaged and drive with them that way in 2wd?

Thanks again guys.

Robert

 

[Roadkill]

With them engaged, all the front driveparts (axle-shafts, driveshafts etc.) are spinning and creating resistance even though they are not being driven by the transfer. More resistance = less mileage & more wear and tear. It won't hurt to drive like that once in a while, but I don't recomend doing all the time.

Edit:

Whenever I know I will be in a "low traction" area, I get out and lock them before hand. That way I can do it on clean, dry ground and when the going gets tough, all I have to do is press the button. Also, even when I don't leave the pavement for months at a time, I try to engage them and drive a a couple of miles (in 2Hi) at least once a month just to rotate the parts and keep the seals lubed.

 

[Cocobum]

You could just have to reset the 4wd system, or somthing like that. It honestly has been awhile since i have done it but this is what i remember. On the passenger side just next to where the passengers feet would be, there is a interior body pannel on the side. Take that off and you should see a small electrical device and on there is a small reset button, press it and hold it for 10 seconds.

Like I said, its been awhile since i have done that and this is pretty much all i could remember (mine is also a 96 so i don't know if everything will be the same but it should because its the same generation 92-96)