front end lift and rear blocks?

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So i got a deal on a set of 35 12.50 15 km2s from my friend but my truck is not lifted yet, im trying to figure out what lift i want i dont wanna buy a susp. lift kit cause there really expensive so i was thinking about getting this:http://broncograveyard.com/bronco/i-33515-superlift-front-bracket-kit-4in-or-6in-lift-.html do you think getting this and 5 inch blocks for the rear would be a decent way to get some cheap lift, i was also thinking of getting a body lift in adition if i really need it. my truck is a 94 5.8l

 

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Our good friend roadkill posted some great tech info on lifting the TTB frontend in our Broncos, just look for the pinned topic in this forum section. A 4" or 6' suspension kit includes more than just the drop brackets for the radius arms and axle beams. You need taller coil springs, a drop Pitman arm and longer shocks for the front. Many basic kits with these items and rear blocks run under $500, vs a PA 2" or 3" body lift at $100.

 
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yea i read the ttb lifting thing over and over, im trying to do this lift as cheap as possible im not going to be doing any intense wheeling so do you think this front end drop kit is a decent choice for my needs and im a little confused would i need new springs and shocks for front? i dont think i would because doesnt that kit lower the tower like parts that the springs and shocks are on? and do you no if that is a 6 inch or 4.5 or does it go by where you mount the pieces

 
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if i were to get a 6 inch lift from the grave yard like you said for about 500 bucks would i need longer drive shafts? im thinking probably not because alot of people talk about lifting these tanks past that without a longer drive shafts

 

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This is my point, as is Roadkill's: you cannot get by "cheap" with just a few parts for a lift, you need a complete kit to keep the steering geometry in line like it was stock. The drop brackets do lower the frame mounting points for the radius arms and axle beams, but also require longer coil springs AND shocks for the front. When you drop everything down 4' or 6", the steering linkage attachment at the gearbox must also be lowered using a drop Pitman arm. You cannot just use drop brackets with the rest of the stock parts, or use taller coil springs with the stock parts, since you alter the geometry to the point beyond it's ability to steer. With a 4' or 6" suspension lift kit, you do not normally need to lengthen the stock driveshafts. You still need to check that you have enoughendplay in the slipjoint for safe operation, though, as the actual amount of lift will vary a bit from one kit to another. AS for the difference in a 4" and 6' kit, the axle beam drop brackets often have two holes, so the same ones are used in both kits. The ends of the axle beams bolt into the top hole for a 4" kit, and the bottom hole on a 6" kit. The 6" kit will have longer coil springs and shocks for the front.

With all of that said, if you want to fit 35" tires as cheaply as possible, then a 3" body lift is cheaper. It does not change the steering geometry from the stock set-up, it just raises the body higher off of the frame. There's still some labor involved in relocating the radiator fan shroud and bumpers, as well as extendingthe steering shaft and any transmission and t-case linkage.

The third and "free" option is to trim the fender openings to fit the larger tires. You will need to remove about 3" around the openings, which is about where the flared part or lip begins. This is what I did on my 78 Bronco to fit 38's. JSM84

 
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ok i think i am just gonna go with a new 6 inch rough country kit off ebay with shocks and everything and do it right the first time, the kit says longer brakelines are reccomended are they usualy needed?

 

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You can relocate the stock brake lines with a 6" lift, but I would suggest getting longer, braided stainless lines that are DOT-approved. If you post a link to that RC kit, I can advise you on any parts it may need in addition to what's listed. Some vendors show a pick of the parts but list only a portion. The basic kit should be close to the same price as the 4", maybe around $550-$600. IF you get the extended radius arms, those add another $400, and add $50 for 2 more shocks if you have the front duads and want to run all four. You will need a frontend alignment after the kit is installed, and some come with adjustable camber bushings. The RC kits I've installed are decent, have only had a few with a couple of holes not lined up on the apb drop brackets. Some kits come with 4.5" blocks, others with an Add-A-Leaf (AAL). JSM84

 

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Not familiar with that vendor, but the price is about right. Have you shopped around other places, like your local 4WParts? Seems odd that they don't list a part number for the kit from RC. That way, you could check on the website to see exactly waht comes with it as well as preview the install instructions. JSM84

 

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