HI guys i have a new problem! MY horn works when the engine is not running! but will not work when it is running!also the cruise control does not work!! and the light under the engine hood does not work i replaced the bulb and still no work! but my mian problem is cruise and horn! thank you
CRIUSE CONTROL +HORN
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yo ROCK,
You have a 1995 full size eddy bauer ford bronco 5.0 WITH A E4OD TRANNY...
correct?
If so
Did you or a previous owner get this RECALL WORK DONE?
Recall for 93-96 Bronco, 94-02 F-150, 97-02 Expedition & 98-02 Lincoln Navigators; NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 05V388000, 07V336000 & 05V017000; Recall Date JAN 27, 2005 & Update; (search for 07V336000 & 05V017000 in "Safety Recalls)' ON CERTAIN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND PICKUP TRUCKS, THE SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH MAY OVERHEAT, SMOKE, OR BURN THIS CONDITION COULD LEAD TO A FIRE. FIRES HAVE OCCURRED WHILE THE VEHICLES WERE PARKED WITH THE IGNITION 'OFF.' AS AN INTERIM REPAIR, OWNERS WILL BE INSTRUCTED TO RETURN THEIR VEHICLES TO THEIR DEALERS TO HAVE THE SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH DISCONNECTED. AS SOON AS REPLACEMENT PARTS ARE AVAILABLE (EARLY APRIL 2005), OWNERS WILL BE INSTRUCTED TO RETURN TO THE DEALERS FOR INSTALLATION OF A NEW SWITCH FREE OF CHARGE. OWNERS MAY CONTACT FORD AT 1-800-392-3673. (NOTE: ALSO SEE RECALLS 05V388 AND 06V286) FORD RECALL NO. 05S28. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV
Source: by Ford & NHTSA via miesk5
Recall Problem; "...I have a 95 Bronco and back in feb.-11- 2010 my rig's master cylinder's Speed Control Deactivation Switch connection caught fire, this is what the recall "speed control system" is and the recall is still on going. Just go to www.fordowner.com to find out about recalls. After contacting Fordowner.com and filing a claim they passed it on to the claims group @ FORD to be reviewed. Once the group reviewed my claim then someone got in touch with me, I have to mail copys of my title, bill of sale, ect. and copy's of photos of the damage to her. She said that the dealer dose not have parts for vehicles 10 years and older so I have to get my local shop to replace the master cylinder and the wires that were effected by the break fluid and their labor cast, she will cut me/the shop a check and then after the work is done then the dealer will look it over to make sure the truck and the work is up-to-date. All this to fix something that at most costs $200. ***..."
Source: by Belafox
took it to the dealer today and got a new one installed free ." 12 April 2011
Source: by tr21triton
Speed Control Deactivation Switch Location pic in a 95
Source: by Trucky18 (Bco) http://www.supermotors.net/clubs/superford/registry/3749/28297
Air Bag - WARNING; Read all Safety Info; Such as, remove a battery terminal (Remove both) then wait 30 minutes before attempting any work on the airbag circuits; I have found a few vehicles that had an aftermarket component in it that had a 12v DC or higher re-chargeable battery
Wiring Diagram in a 94
Source: by Ford http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/jmcdo28/2010-03-07_150406_scwiring.pdf========
and for BOTH CRUISE AND HORN problems:
Clock Spring Exploded pic; "...'94-up with driver's airbag) showing the film circuit which abrades & breaks over time, causing SRS warnings &/or inoperative cruise control"
Clock Spring Part Number; "...The replacement clockspring DORMAN 525-200 does not list build year 1995. I could'nt find a clockspring for 1995 anywahere, so I ordered the 525-200 anyway. The OEM clockspring on my 1995 Bronco XL w/o cruise looked different than its replacement. It was attached with2 plastic tabs, not the 3 torx screws described above. I was able to replace it with the 525-200 by using 3 self tapping screws, where the tors screws should have been..."
Source: by irobbrecht
Clock Spring Removal Video in a 94
Source: by pfun41
or Scroll through his vids; also see pther vids he did for Bronco repairs!
HORN checks
96 Horn Wiring; sim to 95
Clockspring Wiring Connector
Pin Number Circuit Circuit Function
1 � Not Used
2 848 (DG/O) Speed Control Switch to Amplifier
3 � Not Used
4 � Not Used
5 151 (LB/BK) Speed Control On-Off Switch to Amplifier
6 1 (DB) Horn Switch Control
7 � Not Used
8 � Not Used
9 � Not Used
10 158 (BK/PK) Key Warning Switch to Buzzer
B3 CHECK CIRCUIT 6 (Y/LG) FOR SHORT TO GROUND
Check for ground short in Circuit 6 (Y/LG) between horns and horn relay.
Check for ground short between high and low pitch horns.
You have a 1995 full size eddy bauer ford bronco 5.0 WITH A E4OD TRANNY...
correct?
If so
Did you or a previous owner get this RECALL WORK DONE?
Recall for 93-96 Bronco, 94-02 F-150, 97-02 Expedition & 98-02 Lincoln Navigators; NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 05V388000, 07V336000 & 05V017000; Recall Date JAN 27, 2005 & Update; (search for 07V336000 & 05V017000 in "Safety Recalls)' ON CERTAIN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND PICKUP TRUCKS, THE SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH MAY OVERHEAT, SMOKE, OR BURN THIS CONDITION COULD LEAD TO A FIRE. FIRES HAVE OCCURRED WHILE THE VEHICLES WERE PARKED WITH THE IGNITION 'OFF.' AS AN INTERIM REPAIR, OWNERS WILL BE INSTRUCTED TO RETURN THEIR VEHICLES TO THEIR DEALERS TO HAVE THE SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH DISCONNECTED. AS SOON AS REPLACEMENT PARTS ARE AVAILABLE (EARLY APRIL 2005), OWNERS WILL BE INSTRUCTED TO RETURN TO THE DEALERS FOR INSTALLATION OF A NEW SWITCH FREE OF CHARGE. OWNERS MAY CONTACT FORD AT 1-800-392-3673. (NOTE: ALSO SEE RECALLS 05V388 AND 06V286) FORD RECALL NO. 05S28. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV
Source: by Ford & NHTSA via miesk5
Recall Problem; "...I have a 95 Bronco and back in feb.-11- 2010 my rig's master cylinder's Speed Control Deactivation Switch connection caught fire, this is what the recall "speed control system" is and the recall is still on going. Just go to www.fordowner.com to find out about recalls. After contacting Fordowner.com and filing a claim they passed it on to the claims group @ FORD to be reviewed. Once the group reviewed my claim then someone got in touch with me, I have to mail copys of my title, bill of sale, ect. and copy's of photos of the damage to her. She said that the dealer dose not have parts for vehicles 10 years and older so I have to get my local shop to replace the master cylinder and the wires that were effected by the break fluid and their labor cast, she will cut me/the shop a check and then after the work is done then the dealer will look it over to make sure the truck and the work is up-to-date. All this to fix something that at most costs $200. ***..."
Source: by Belafox
took it to the dealer today and got a new one installed free ." 12 April 2011
Source: by tr21triton
Speed Control Deactivation Switch Location pic in a 95
Source: by Trucky18 (Bco) http://www.supermotors.net/clubs/superford/registry/3749/28297
Air Bag - WARNING; Read all Safety Info; Such as, remove a battery terminal (Remove both) then wait 30 minutes before attempting any work on the airbag circuits; I have found a few vehicles that had an aftermarket component in it that had a 12v DC or higher re-chargeable battery
Wiring Diagram in a 94
Source: by Ford http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/jmcdo28/2010-03-07_150406_scwiring.pdf========
and for BOTH CRUISE AND HORN problems:
Clock Spring Exploded pic; "...'94-up with driver's airbag) showing the film circuit which abrades & breaks over time, causing SRS warnings &/or inoperative cruise control"
Clock Spring Part Number; "...The replacement clockspring DORMAN 525-200 does not list build year 1995. I could'nt find a clockspring for 1995 anywahere, so I ordered the 525-200 anyway. The OEM clockspring on my 1995 Bronco XL w/o cruise looked different than its replacement. It was attached with2 plastic tabs, not the 3 torx screws described above. I was able to replace it with the 525-200 by using 3 self tapping screws, where the tors screws should have been..."
Source: by irobbrecht
Clock Spring Removal Video in a 94
or Scroll through his vids; also see pther vids he did for Bronco repairs!
HORN checks
96 Horn Wiring; sim to 95
Clockspring Wiring Connector
Pin Number Circuit Circuit Function
1 � Not Used
2 848 (DG/O) Speed Control Switch to Amplifier
3 � Not Used
4 � Not Used
5 151 (LB/BK) Speed Control On-Off Switch to Amplifier
6 1 (DB) Horn Switch Control
7 � Not Used
8 � Not Used
9 � Not Used
10 158 (BK/PK) Key Warning Switch to Buzzer
B3 CHECK CIRCUIT 6 (Y/LG) FOR SHORT TO GROUND
Check for ground short in Circuit 6 (Y/LG) between horns and horn relay.
Check for ground short between high and low pitch horns.
Attachments
yo,
PART II
I had to take a rest
Pull HORN RELAY in Power Distribution Box
Miesk5 Note; Located under the hood on the drivers side fenderwell, on driver's side of the air cleaner housing
Diagram in a 95
Source: by Seabronc (Rosie, Fred W) at Ford Bronco Zone Forums
http://broncozone.com/topic/21047-1995-bronco-fuserelay-question/
Test Relay or swap Trailer #2 in place of Horn Relay
==
More on CRUISE;
Visual inspection is an important part of diagnosis. When performing visual inspection, check all items for abnormal conditions. Look for such items as bare, broken or disconnected wires. For the speed control to function properly, the servo (throttle actuator) and throttle linkage should operate freely and smoothly. Any concerns found by the visual inspection should be corrected before further tests of the speed control system are made. The following items should be inspected.
- If the amber RABS indicator in the instrument cluster stays lit when the ignition switch is in the RUN position, then refer to servicing the rear anti-lock brake system before continuing with the speed control diagnostics.
- Does the horn work? If not, check the horn circuit fuse, horn relay and horn circuit wiring.
- Do the stoplamps light when the brake pedal is depressed? If not, check the stoplamp circuit fuse, stoplamps, wiring and stoplamp switch.
- Look for loose or unseated speed control servo connector pins.
- Check for broken wires at the connectors.
- Check for speed control servo cable adjustment.
- Check for broken or bound speed control servo cable
Cruise Control Diagnostics for 93-up electronic servo system
http://www.supermotors.net/registry/media/322459_1
PART II
I had to take a rest
Pull HORN RELAY in Power Distribution Box
Miesk5 Note; Located under the hood on the drivers side fenderwell, on driver's side of the air cleaner housing
Diagram in a 95
Source: by Seabronc (Rosie, Fred W) at Ford Bronco Zone Forums
http://broncozone.com/topic/21047-1995-bronco-fuserelay-question/
Test Relay or swap Trailer #2 in place of Horn Relay
==
More on CRUISE;
Visual inspection is an important part of diagnosis. When performing visual inspection, check all items for abnormal conditions. Look for such items as bare, broken or disconnected wires. For the speed control to function properly, the servo (throttle actuator) and throttle linkage should operate freely and smoothly. Any concerns found by the visual inspection should be corrected before further tests of the speed control system are made. The following items should be inspected.
- If the amber RABS indicator in the instrument cluster stays lit when the ignition switch is in the RUN position, then refer to servicing the rear anti-lock brake system before continuing with the speed control diagnostics.
- Does the horn work? If not, check the horn circuit fuse, horn relay and horn circuit wiring.
- Do the stoplamps light when the brake pedal is depressed? If not, check the stoplamp circuit fuse, stoplamps, wiring and stoplamp switch.
- Look for loose or unseated speed control servo connector pins.
- Check for broken wires at the connectors.
- Check for speed control servo cable adjustment.
- Check for broken or bound speed control servo cable
Cruise Control Diagnostics for 93-up electronic servo system
http://www.supermotors.net/registry/media/322459_1
yo,
For the SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH RECALL; Go to; Ford, Lincoln & Mercury Recall Notices
Look up Your Vehicle
Enter Your VIN
http://owner.ford.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Owner/Page/RecallsPage
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light under the engine hood does not work;
Mechanical Hood Lamp Switch to Replace Old Style Mercury Style Switch TSB 01-21-6 for 91-96 Bronco, F Series & Many Others
by Ford via Chilton @ http://content.chiltonsonline.com/TSB/displayTSBHandler.ashx?assetID=34485&key=6kAUBD5BruOJf%2f3tgozUqjXM3RdbjcQqW4sVWiE%2fp2IojfpfKqM07dr61%2bQAWHtTICqwJP3BNpe8Tyz21%2fe9dFORJ0ID7lzx9uXIS%2faNlXzykAWIPSC3qg%3d%3d
Obtain the replacement Mechanical switche using Ford PN 1U5Z-15702-AA
Under-Hood, Mercury Removal Guide, Bronco, Ford, 70-95, etc.
Source: by wa.gov/pubs
https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/publications/publications/0504024.pdf
For the SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH RECALL; Go to; Ford, Lincoln & Mercury Recall Notices
Look up Your Vehicle
Enter Your VIN
http://owner.ford.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Owner/Page/RecallsPage
-----
light under the engine hood does not work;
Mechanical Hood Lamp Switch to Replace Old Style Mercury Style Switch TSB 01-21-6 for 91-96 Bronco, F Series & Many Others
by Ford via Chilton @ http://content.chiltonsonline.com/TSB/displayTSBHandler.ashx?assetID=34485&key=6kAUBD5BruOJf%2f3tgozUqjXM3RdbjcQqW4sVWiE%2fp2IojfpfKqM07dr61%2bQAWHtTICqwJP3BNpe8Tyz21%2fe9dFORJ0ID7lzx9uXIS%2faNlXzykAWIPSC3qg%3d%3d
Obtain the replacement Mechanical switche using Ford PN 1U5Z-15702-AA
Under-Hood, Mercury Removal Guide, Bronco, Ford, 70-95, etc.
Source: by wa.gov/pubs
https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/publications/publications/0504024.pdf
WELL GUYS ! I took the clock spring off my parts truck and the steering wheel removed wonderfully! But when i began to dismantle the other steering wheel there is no where for the bolts to thread in for the steering puller!!???lol so i just unplugged the old clockspring and connected the new one and the same problem is still happening the horn only works when the engine is off ! and it looks like they done a recall on the part that goes into the master cylinder there is a special harness new on the there, but it is disconnected so i pluged it back in and same problem still!! the seller i purchase the truck from is now in hiding i cannot get in touch with him ! surprize eh? I also check witht ther ford recall site and put in m y vin# and it says no recalls does that mean the recall have been already been done?NOW what?
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yo R,
ok, let's work on the Cruise Recall mess for now
Recall; Fused Jumper Harness (14A411) pic; "List price on this is ~$11 (as of the date I posted the pic), but it will be installed at NO CHARGE (parts or labor) on vehicles covered by the recall. Even though the label is wrong about the fuse being internal, it should still NEVER be replaced. If it blows, it means the brake pressure switch is leaking, and (as the label states) should be replaced with the new switch & adapter harness kit, listing for ~$20 right now..."
Source: by Steve
http://www.supermotors.net/registry/media/271243_1
Recall Update; Field Service Action 05S28 Speed Control System Modification Supplement #7 for 94-96 Bronco, 94-02 F-150/250 (Under 8500 GVW), 97- 02 Expedition, 98-02 Navigator, 02 Blackwood
Source: by Ford via Steve
http://www.supermotors.net/registry/media/505128_1
this shows how the recall stuff is hooked up; have not found any more info on this on the www, so far
Horn;
Looks like the Horn's Ground path goes thru da Speed Control (On-Off Switch to Amplifier) and that is the issue
see this in;
upper right side in diagram;
ok, let's work on the Cruise Recall mess for now
Recall; Fused Jumper Harness (14A411) pic; "List price on this is ~$11 (as of the date I posted the pic), but it will be installed at NO CHARGE (parts or labor) on vehicles covered by the recall. Even though the label is wrong about the fuse being internal, it should still NEVER be replaced. If it blows, it means the brake pressure switch is leaking, and (as the label states) should be replaced with the new switch & adapter harness kit, listing for ~$20 right now..."
Source: by Steve
http://www.supermotors.net/registry/media/271243_1
Recall Update; Field Service Action 05S28 Speed Control System Modification Supplement #7 for 94-96 Bronco, 94-02 F-150/250 (Under 8500 GVW), 97- 02 Expedition, 98-02 Navigator, 02 Blackwood
Source: by Ford via Steve
http://www.supermotors.net/registry/media/505128_1
this shows how the recall stuff is hooked up; have not found any more info on this on the www, so far
Horn;
Looks like the Horn's Ground path goes thru da Speed Control (On-Off Switch to Amplifier) and that is the issue
see this in;
upper right side in diagram;
yo R,
ok, let's work on the Cruise Recall mess for now
Recall; Fused Jumper Harness (14A411) pic; "List price on this is ~$11 (as of the date I posted the pic), but it will be installed at NO CHARGE (parts or labor) on vehicles covered by the recall. Even though the label is wrong about the fuse being internal, it should still NEVER be replaced. If it blows, it means the brake pressure switch is leaking, and (as the label states) should be replaced with the new switch & adapter harness kit, listing for ~$20 right now..."
Source: by Steve
http://www.supermoto.../media/271243_1
Recall Update; Field Service Action 05S28 Speed Control System Modification Supplement #7 for 94-96 Bronco, 94-02 F-150/250 (Under 8500 GVW), 97- 02 Expedition, 98-02 Navigator, 02 Blackwood
Source: by Ford via Steve
http://www.supermoto.../media/505128_1
this shows how the recall stuff is hooked up; have not found any more info on this on the www, so far
Horn;
Looks like the Horn's Ground path goes thru da Speed Control (On-Off Switch to Amplifier) and that is the issue
see this in;
upper right side in diagram;
WEEL OK SO I finaly found sometime to get out and look at the cruise problem again! So the harness that is connected to the master cylinder happens to be 8W7T- 14A411- E5595 . is that the old one or the new replacment for the recall? AND I NOW HAVE NOTICE THEY CUT OFF THE ABS WIRE TO THE BRAKES AT THE WHEEL WHERE THE CALIBERS ARE!! ??I WOULD LOVE TIO FIND THIS GUY THAT SOLD ME THIS TRUCK!!
yo R,
According to non-Ford sources, such as owner, wolfrace 8W7T- 14A411- E5595 is the New harness w/ 2 Fuses
some pics showing this New harness va old harness
ABS; your 4WABS is disbaled; should have amber ABS warning light On while driving; or prev owner or shop removed bulb or it burned out or wiring is...
; so revert back to old school braking
According to non-Ford sources, such as owner, wolfrace 8W7T- 14A411- E5595 is the New harness w/ 2 Fuses
some pics showing this New harness va old harness
ABS; your 4WABS is disbaled; should have amber ABS warning light On while driving; or prev owner or shop removed bulb or it burned out or wiring is...
; so revert back to old school braking
yo rockinron,
I over-wrote this when I was editing (or trying to edit) my last reply
Stop by local Ford dealer and have them confirm harness.
I over-wrote this when I was editing (or trying to edit) my last reply
Stop by local Ford dealer and have them confirm harness.
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