Saginaw PS pump conversion

So im thinkin about replacin my stock noisy leaky Ford PS pump with a Saginaw one. I think i remeber seein in it Seabroncs signature plus ive seen it done in F150s. I was wondering if its worth it, ive heard it really helps your handling out alot, are quieter and they last for ever. Also is the swap very hard, or is something id jest need a few hours for?

Plus where do yall think a good place to get a nice one would be, are they hard to find decent ones in junkyards?

Yup, it's an easy swap & well worth doing. A junkyard will be the best place to pick one up just be sure to grab all the bracketry with it. While you have it out you might want to toss a rebuilt kit into it. shouldn't take much more than an afternoon (that's assuming you have it in hand, maybe a wkend if you have to pull it first & then replace it at home in the shop, but even then you can do it in a day)

For more info on it click on the search key & search on "saginaw conversion" being sure to use the quotation marks, you'll get plenty of info.

Thanks man, btw what trucks would i want to in at a junkyard to get one, and whats a good place to get a rebuild kit?

Redneck86 said:

Thanks man, btw what trucks would i want to in at a junkyard to get one, and whats a good place to get a rebuild kit?

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If you have a V-belt system, get the brackets and pump from an 80 - 86 F250 with a 351 in it. You need the whole thing including the high pressure hose. I couldn't find a bracket for mine and had to do some fabricating and also made my own high pressure hose.

As far as the rebuild kit goes, it is easily done except for the shaft bushing. If you need to replace it, you need a hydraulic press or a super strong industrial C-clamp (they go for around $100.00 BUCKS). I use my buddies press at his service station, it pays to have a good relatioship with a local mechanic. If it isn't scored up by metal fragments, you probably don't need to replace it. Make sure you don't lose any of the little veins for the concentric pump.

Good luck,

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Alright cool, thought you had put one in your truck. How much better does it handle/work then the stock pump?

Yeah, that shaft bushing is a bitch to press out. I've actually *broken* an import C-clamp (and a *thick* one too damnit) trying to remove one before throwing in the towell and using the 20T press. On the other-hand, that bushing is pretty tough and for te few times that I actually *have* bothered to remove it it's only been scored up & spalled once, it's a pretty tough alloy. I'll admit to installining a few rebuild kits & leaving that particular bushing out. If the shaft feels good in there you may want to leave it be, not to discourage anyone from an honest days work, it's just that if the bushing is OK to beginn with it can be a lot of work to replace a perfectly good part, just something to consider.

I'd be hard pressed to *quantify* just how much better it is over stock or how much harder it works, but I think it's safe to say to say that you won't be disappointed, it'll easily turn a set of 38" tires and swapping over to one males the steering feel like the Old School 70's Lincoln's where you just needed one or two fingers to spin the wheel. I haven't yet met anyone who swapped one in & was slapping himself in the forhead for doing so. I'm willing to bet you'll be happy with it.

Sweet thanks for the info on the swap and how to go about doin it. Ill probably get on it before i head off to Wyotech in a few months. Id like to have a fairly decent truck when i get there B)

Redneck86 said:

Alright cool, thought you had put one in your truck. How much better does it handle/work then the stock pump?

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Like Dave said, it's like having a sports car as far as the steering go. In fact, watch it when you first get it on the road, the steering is so easy you will probably have to get use to not having to man handle it. Mine steers easier than my wife's Mazda. I love driving along using my thumb and forefinger to steer rather than holding on for dear life. Then there are the times when steering is usually difficult like turning the wheel when standing still, that is now a 1 finger job, or if you put on larger tires and maneuvering off road. The only measurement is, WOW / wasn't I smart for thinking of that , followed by the head slap and why didn't I do that before :blink: .

Get everything from the donor truck, Pump, pulley, all mounting brackets (not just the pump bracket, but also the engine mounting bracket. They are two different pieces), bolts, spacers and high pressure hose. This pump uses tranny fluid so flush out the system by running the return hose into a bucket while running new fluid through it, ( two person job, one keeping the pump full while the other turns the engine on and off). Speaking of return hose, you will probably need to replace that also because of the length. That is easily purchased from an auto supply as is the high pressure hose if you want to use a stock hose. Just tell them you have a F250 with a Saginaw pump, anything else will usually get you a blank stare and, "my computer doesn't show a hose for a Bronco with a Saginaw pump, sorry".

Good luck,

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