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I just received my 86 full size Bronco. He's a rusty one I love it. Birthday present from my wife she gets me. My back window does not go down with the window switch. I have not yet checked fuzes or anything like that. All that I am wondering is if there is any normal problems. It really should not be too difficult you have a motor wiring and a switch. Seems easy ya right ****.

 

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yo,

Try pushing on the TG Driver side below glass; this may help the Latch Safety switch to engage.

Fuse Block Diagram in an 86 w/ Nomenclature

fuseblock86.jpg Source: by Steve83 (Steve, That dirty old truck)

check # 12 & #14 - both are Circuit Breakers if you have power windows and they operate then CB 14 is good; same for CB 12 w/power door locks; in no power DL or PW; use a test light or meter to ck for 12v DC on both sides of CBs; with a needle attached to meter or test light leads to slip into CB socket; test both side od CB

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Wiring Diagram (color codes are correct)

http://broncozone.com/topic/19828-tail-gate-wiring-diagram/

Source: by Seabronc (Rosie, Fred W) at Ford Bronco Zone Forums

Troubleshooting Synopsis;

"...The tail gate circuit is pretty easy to resolve with a meter. Attached is a diagram of the circuit. Note that there are two fuses which you may have already found out. One powers the dash switch which is powered only when the key is in RUN or ACC. The other powers the tail gate switch and that line is hot at all times.

If the motor is definitely good, (which can be verified by using a set of jumper leads directly to the motor connector). Once it is verified that the motor works then the common problems are:

1. The Latch Safety switch in the left side latch, This is often a problem when the tail gate fails from both switches.(you can pull the connector and jumper it out, which many people leave permanently jumpers out). The problem can be as easy as the latch needs adjustment. So if the jumper makes it work then either leave it jumped, adjust the latching stud for a tighter fit, or replace the latch switch if testing indicates it is bad. The function of the switch is to make sure the tail gate is latched before putting the window up. I like it bypassed because it makes it easy to get the window out of the way when working inside the tail gate. I think I'm smart enough to put the window back down before closing the tail gate . The only suggestion if leaving it jumped is to support the window if it is in the up position with the tail gate down. Else it could be broken by someone leaning on it.

2. The ground return for the tail gate switch uses the same two lines the dash switch does, (the grounding point is under the dash. The dash switch changes the function of the two leads running to the tail gate window motor by grounding one and putting 12V on the other. The tail gate switch uses the two leads for the ground connection, (it requires the dash switch to be in the neutral position in order to work). Depending on the year of the truck there are 2 or 3 connectors involved that often get corroded, sometimes to the point that the wires break off the connector. In your truck, there is on connector behind the left tail light, the next common failing connector is the one on the left side of the rear frame crossover member, (it is gray, if you can still see the color, and just under and behind the bumper). So to make it short, if you can operate the motor with a set of jumper leads and the window goes up and down that way, then the problem is a connection or the Latch Safety Switch. If you can't get the tail gate open to work on it, crawl in the back and remove the tail gate panel and find the motor leads attached along the bottom edge of the opening. Disconnect them and use a long set of leads or another battery in the back with you to test the motor. Once the window is down you can open the gate to make it more comfortable to work on the problem. In the diagram you will see a black with white striped wire that goes to the tail gate key switch, you should have 12V there at all times. To get at it, you will need the window in the up position. The other two leads, (with the dash switch in the center position) should indicate that they are grounded when doing a continuity check of them). You can also check the entire path from dash switch to the tail gate key switch by using a meter and probing the wires the purple with light green stripe and the dark green with light green stripe. Have someone (with the key in RUN or ACC) moving the Dash switch from UP to Down while you check those leads for 12V. If you don't get 12V then the problem is in a connector between the two switches or a broken wire (a broken wire would most likely be where they transition between the body and tail gate due to constant flexing). The procedure would be; 12V missing on one of the wires, move back to the connector behind the tail light (missing there), move to the connector on the cross member (missing there) move back to the connectors in front, until you find where you have 12V on the line you are probing. Once you find 12V the problem is between the last point probed and where you find 12V..."

Source: by Seabronc (Rosie, Fred W) at Ford Bronco Zone Forums

http://broncozone.com/topic/7671-tailgate-window-switch/

For the motor test; try using a cordless power tool's 12v battery with jumpers

"...If the glass is clear of the shell, but you can't open the t/g, remove the inside access panel & pull these 2 rods inward. Either unclip them from the center mechanism, or pull them like bow strings to release each latch. Make sure the glass isnt so high that it engages the campers groove, or it could break. If it wont come down, unbolt the slides from the glass, or the motor from the regulator to lower the glass..." Miesk5 Note, the bars are referred to as the Latch Rods in most diagrams

inside-c.jpg

Source: by Steve83 (Steve, That dirty old truck) at SuperMotors.net

more TG INFO & Repair LINKs in my partially recovered site @ http://web.archive.org/web/20110818162609/http://www.broncolinks.com/index.php?index=478

 
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tipically there is a safety switch built into the drivers side latch, it only allows the window to be operated if the gate is latched, usually that switch goes out before the elec motor. i always take the gate cover off the inside, unplug the motor, and hook a power source (like a spare batt or batt charger) to the motor. it dont matter what side is pos or neg as on way rolls up and one way down. if that works, all bets are on that saftey switch, if direct power dont work, its a motor.

 
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miesk5 thank you for the help I have done that. It did not work. lol. I will try the battery thing and put new fuzes in also. Thanks for the help.

 
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Thank you for this very useful thread.  I also just fell into a pretty rough 90' lots of things to do to it - this being one of them.

 

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Yo tstoneami,

Welcome and Thank You!

Here is the 1990 Bronco Pre-Delivery Shop & Electrical & Vacuum Troubleshooting Manual (EVTM), Partial by member Kingfish999 in Google Drive @ https://drive.google.com/drive/mobil...XB6NW5neFRoZGcSlow scrolling for my slow Comcast Highest Cost Blast Internet..Find page # of item desired in contents, then flip screen flip down like spinning a bearing then stopping periodically to see what page you are on.Suggest you download for faster scrolling Added, Suggest you download for faster scrolling and to use the table of contents index.1990 Ford Bronco Brochure, partial by El Kabong @ 1990 Ford Bronco Brochure pictures, videos, and sounds | SuperMotors.net

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