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my buddy had a 2000 mustange and and he said it had the ford 8.8 rear end

well he totaled it and has some high performance gears chillin in a box

would they fit in my rear end?

or becuz its a stange its a no go

 

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Should fit if they're for a Ford 8.8" rear, and close to your gear ratio. I think 3.92:1 and up is the break for needing a new carrier for the front, which you'll need to swap to match whatever the rear 8.8" ratio is. JSM84

 
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As JSM said, the rub here will be finding a matching set of gears for the front. While they don't have to be an *exact* match they DO need to be pretty damn close. I've run 4.10's in the rear & 4.11's up front with no problems but that's about as far as you can step out of line without breaking something. Now of course there are exceptions to most rules and there's one here as well. In places like New England and other areas where you'd be driving in 4WD on dry pavement from time to time & this sort of driving demands identical front & rear gearing. Down here however the whole 4wd thing is pretty much just for recreational use. If you absolutely limit the use of 4wd to dirt, mud & off road situations you can get away with mismatched gears because the tires will be able to slip. On dry pavement there's just too much traction and the torque will build up in the U-joints, driveshafts & transfer case until something breaks, in the mud your tires can slip and release the built-up torque. Competition trucks will sometimes do this intentionally running a "faster" gear in the front axle to help pull & steer the truck down the track. If you were careful to only run 4WD off-road then you could install the orphan gears in the 8.8" and drive it that way until you got the $$$ to do the front. Not that I'd *recommend* doing this, simply saying that it can & has been done. Better yet would be to simply snag the gears (the axle itself is too narrow to be of any use to you, same goes for the shafts) and hold onto them until you can find a matching set for the front.

Depending on what ratio they are it could be a good deal, especially since you're looking at moving up to 35's. 4.10 would really be the better ratio for that size tire but something like a 3.90 would be pretty close & better than the stock 3.50's

 
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As JSM said, the rub here will be finding a matching set of gears for the front. While they don't have to be an *exact* match they DO need to be pretty damn close. I've run 4.10's in the rear & 4.11's up front with no problems but that's about as far as you can step out of line without breaking something. Now of course there are exceptions to most rules and there's one here as well. In places like New England and other areas where you'd be driving in 4WD on dry pavement from time to time & this sort of driving demands identical front & rear gearing. Down here however the whole 4wd thing is pretty much just for recreational use. If you absolutely limit the use of 4wd to dirt, mud & off road situations you can get away with mismatched gears because the tires will be able to slip. On dry pavement there's just too much traction and the torque will build up in the U-joints, driveshafts & transfer case until something breaks, in the mud your tires can slip and release the built-up torque. Competition trucks will sometimes do this intentionally running a "faster" gear in the front axle to help pull & steer the truck down the track. If you were careful to only run 4WD off-road then you could install the orphan gears in the 8.8" and drive it that way until you got the $$$ to do the front. Not that I'd *recommend* doing this, simply saying that it can & has been done. Better yet would be to simply snag the gears (the axle itself is too narrow to be of any use to you, same goes for the shafts) and hold onto them until you can find a matching set for the front.
Depending on what ratio they are it could be a good deal, especially since you're looking at moving up to 35's. 4.10 would really be the better ratio for that size tire but something like a 3.90 would be pretty close & better than the stock 3.50's
wow i didnt know u had to change the front gears to

damn nothing is easy is it

 

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Well, you only have to change the fronts if you want to use 4WD. Unfortunately your truck is just a big large machine that you sit inside of and the front wheels really DO need to be spinning at pretty much the same RPM as the rear wheels when 4x4 is engaged or *bad things* will happen to the rest of the drivetrain. Now I suppose you could get all creative and $hit & run a wickedly different diameter tire on one end to compensate for it. Personally I think it would look pretty unique with a set of big ole' 24's out back and some trailer tires up front, I mean man that would be one *fly* pimpmobile. Frame the windshield with some dingleballs & get one of these mini mirrored discoballs & the babes will be trippin' over themselves to get to ya, maybe cover the dash with some fuzzy fur, oh yeah I can see it already. We could even plumb it with some Noss. Getcha a killer gold grill for it & you'll be out there Sat night with all the other Donk riders showing off your box & putting those Caprices to shame.

 
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I keep forgeting to mention this to you. As an alternative to swapping the gears in both axles you can get a different gearset to go in the transmission. If your tranny has a rebuild in it's future you may want to consider this option instead since it'll achieve the same thing by changing your final drive ratio back to something that will keep the engine in it's powerband.

 
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Well, you only have to change the fronts if you want to use 4WD. Unfortunately your truck is just a big large machine that you sit inside of and the front wheels really DO need to be spinning at pretty much the same RPM as the rear wheels when 4x4 is engaged or *bad things* will happen to the rest of the drivetrain. Now I suppose you could get all creative and $hit & run a wickedly different diameter tire on one end to compensate for it. Personally I think it would look pretty unique with a set of big ole' 24's out back and some trailer tires up front, I mean man that would be one *fly* pimpmobile. Frame the windshield with some dingleballs & get one of these mini mirrored discoballs & the babes will be trippin' over themselves to get to ya, maybe cover the dash with some fuzzy fur, oh yeah I can see it already. We could even plumb it with some Noss. Getcha a killer gold grill for it & you'll be out there Sat night with all the other Donk riders showing off your box & putting those Caprices to shame.
hahaha gotta love that idea

 
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I keep forgeting to mention this to you. As an alternative to swapping the gears in both axles you can get a different gearset to go in the transmission. If your tranny has a rebuild in it's future you may want to consider this option instead since it'll achieve the same thing by changing your final drive ratio back to something that will keep the engine in it's powerband.
eh there no rebuild (hopefully) in my future ill just have to save up money i geuss

thanks

 

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Oh, I understand, but my point is that you may want to consider it *anyways* Differentials & gears don't wear out very often and you can usually put more than 400K on them without any problems at all. It's at least worth thinking about spending $1200 on a new set of tranny gears & a refresh kit for a unit that will probably need a rebuild within the next 100K anyways instead of $2400+ to do the axles that will in all liklyhood run just fine until the body falls off the frame. I don't know how many guys I know who spent upwards of $2500 doing both axles and then had to rebuild a tranny within the next few years. Just food for thought.

 

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