yo Art,
As Seabronc advised! and some tips by urban_cowboy who has an 88 Bronco and swapped the 5.0 to 5.8
"...For all you who are looking at upgrading, here is my story. I have spent the last month working on getting my 302EFI swapped to a 351EFI. After much deliberation, I decided to go with a complete kit from Jasper. The 351EFI package included injection system, block, computer, and most everything else excluding accessories like the water pump, fuel pump, AC, and Alternator. The total advertised horsepower of this kit is around 330hp. My shop spoke with Jasper about what we were trying to do and they recommended this package, so we got it on order.
After pulling the old 302 and installing the new 351, we ran into some small issues integrating the existing fuel line into the provided injection rail and lines. This was easy enough to fix by simply using a new rail from a 351. The next problem took us a month to line out. After installing the 351 we began to run into computer and wiring harness issues. The computer provided was a Ford factory computer that was modified by Jasper. When we began trying to integrate the sensors for emmisions into the Jasper computer, we ran into a problem. Jasper could not get us the wiring diagram for the computer and after much try and error, the computer would run the motor but not let us get past 2800rpm. Jasper R&D departement did not help us much on this and could not get us any information we needed to integrate this kit into a EFI truck. We then decided to go with a Ford factory 351 computer which would not be programmed for my performance cam and heads. We knew this option would come at some performance/efficiency cost, but we has little choice. At this point we just wanted easy and we knew the factory computer and wiring harness could be installed with a little modification for the Jasper ignition system. After much research, we found that Ford no longer makes or sells computers for the earily 351 EFI motors. We were able to find a replacement that seems to work. We had to unhook the check engine light due to some inputs that were not being used on the Ford computer. The unused inputs were creating an error, so this was the easiest solution.
I drove it for the first time yesterday, and the motor runs pretty well. I believe there is a little performance loss, but it is still much better than a stock 351EFI. I have not had it on a dyno, so I have no real horsepower numbers, but my gut tells me about 260-270hp at the rear wheels. The performance cam that came with the kit does not like normal low idle speeds, so we had to bump up the RPMs to keep things smooth. i think we are currently running at about 1200 out of gear and 900 in gear. All in all this was a pretty good kit. After futher reflection and experience, this kit is really indended for carb to EFI conversion due to the lack of computer inputs for emission sensors. In hindsight, I would probably go with a performance long block from Jasper and simply build out the injection and ignition systems from aftermarket parts. If anyone is thinking of making the 302 to 351 swap, consider going with a completly stock 351. This would be the cheapest and easiest solution. If you are like me and wanted more, consider building out your complete system from a good base performance long block. I still have a high opinion of Jasper, but they really led use a stray on getting this kit. My guess is we came out about the same on parts as a complete build out, but the labor and research was much more. In fact, I estimate it took us 3 weeks longer to do it the way we did.
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5.0L to EFI 5.8L swap
by Ryan M (Fireguy50)
It's not easy to pick a 302 from a 351 in a line up.
One quickest and easiest way to ID a EFI302 from EFI351 is to inspect the EGR system. They use different exhaust tubes to connect the EGR to the exhaust. The 302 gets exhaust from the lower intake, while the 351 gets exhaust from the passanger exhaust manifold. Much quicker and easier than measuring the lower intake.
The positive ID is to measure the lower intake
302 is aprox ~ 8 inches wide
351 is aporx ~ 11 inches wide
New Intake need upperand lower, the gasket patern is diffrent from 5.0L/5.8L. So you can't mix an upper and lower between the two. The 5.0L uses squared ports and the 5.8L uses oval ports. If you get an intake from a junk yard it will have the matching fuel rail.
Fuel Rail: The 5.8L is a wider engine so the fuel rail is wider. You can get this with the intake from the junkyard. Some people have cut the nylon tubing off the 5.0L fuel rail and used EFI fuel hose to make it wider.
Distributor - the 5.0L/5.8L distributors look the same but... The only difference between them are the oil pump drive is larger on the 5.8L.
Computer - You must get a 5.8L computer from a truck just like your 5.0L. If you have a E4OD transmission you must get a 351 computer from an E4OD truck. You should be able to get this off a junkyard truck just like the intake. Just don't get one that was on a flood damaged vehicle
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Exhaust Crossover - The 5.8L is a wider engine so to connect to the exhaust manifold you'll need a wider corssover. There are a few options to acomplish this. The stock crossover's are part of the first converter, so it is an expensive part to buy new. You can get it used, or have an exhaust shop build you something custom.
remember to keep O2 sensor and install it about 6-12" away from the cylinder head
Oil Pan - The 5.8L has a larger crank with larger main journels. So the oil pans are not interchangable.
EGR - They use different exhaust tubes to connect the EGR to the exhaust. The 5.0L gets exhaust from the lower intake, while the 5.8L gets exhaust from the passanger exhaust manifold.
Below is a 5.0L EGR:
Below is a 5.8L EGR:
