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Skyhigh351

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i had this same problem a week ago,

now its back i, i have replaced the distributor, fuel pressure regulator, plugs, wires, rotor, cap, egr valve, radiator, thermostat, throtle position sensor, engine coolent sensor, and my truck is still doing the same freakin thing, it idles funny, it jumps up and down, really rough when im driving under 2000 rpms

starts perfectly when its cold but soon as it warms up to the right temp, and i let it sit for about 5 minutes its hard to start it, it cranks for a while then starts,

im really really frustrated with it all now, i dont know what else to think,

ive tried to think of new things that could be wrong and im all out of ideas,

someone please help, if i have it in drive and im sitting at the light with my foot on the brake the truck will bump forward slightly like it wants to go

 

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Have you tried the ignition module?I know they are known to act up once they heat up...Or maybe you have a good vacume leak,sucking in too mush air screwing up the fuel ratio.

 

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two most likely things to cause a surging or rough idle are

1. vacuum leak

2. dirty sticky IAC

What does the IAC do? How does it work?

http://www.fordfuelinjection.com/?p=39

Check and clean your IAC

http://www.ford-trucks.com/article/idx/8/1...er_IAC_Fix.html

TheOldWizard Has some issues with the video I'll link to below, and while I agree with him, I think that overall the video is helpful and worth looking at.

First, the example Idle Air Control/Bypass (IAC/IAB) motor they showed during most of the video is very different from the style used on most (all?) Ford vehicles. They showed a Ford design briefly and described it as one with an internal pintle.
Second, they said specifically not to spray cleaner on IAC with internal pintles. BS ! Any carb cleaner will work. Most will dry quickly. Just make certain to not leave any gunk.

Third, I have seen IACs work properly when warm, but stick when cold so their suggested testing procedures may not be perfect. In other words, you could pass all of the tests and still have a sticking IAC when cold.
youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=406BTo4JE3A...player_embedded

Tips for Checking for vacuum leaks.

Some of the sensors and some of the actuators either read the amount of vacuum, or use vacuum to move controls, therefore it is important to the proper functioning of the engine that your vacuum system is fully intact. Otherwise one may get codes falsely indicating that there is a problem with a controller/actuator, or a sensor when in reality it is caused by a lack of vacuum.

Look at your rubber vacuum hoses (they are about 1/4 - 3/8 inches in diameter, if they are dry rotted or cracked, replace them. IF they slip on/off of their connectors too easily, they may have stretched out a little bit, cut the ends off, and put them back on.

You may listen for a leak. Sometimes using a cut off piece of garden hose is a good aid to listen with. Sometimes a cardboard tube (like from gift wrapping paper) is helpful. Just remember that whenever you stick your head inside a running engine compartment, that you are not wearing any loose clothing or jewelry that can get caught.

Another suggestion is to use a spray can of carb cleaner and spray around the bottom of the intake manifold, and the base of the throttle body assembly. IF there is a leak, you should hear a change in your engine.

Keep a fire extinguisher handy, or use water instead of carb cleaner (it works, but not as well.) Be aware that if you use water and the wires get wet and it runs worse... your wires may be bad, and the water is allowing them to arc instead of jump the gap of the spark plug.

Another suggestion is: to take a propane torch, turn it on (but don't light it) and move it over the vacuum hoses and connections. The engine RPM's will increase if there is a leak and the propane gets sucked in.

Courtesy of TheOldWizard ford-forums... Don't forget to remind folks to check the PCV valve, hose and grommet !

Courtesy Ramnasal ford-forums... Clamp off the hose that runs to the vacuum booster (brake booster) or pull it and plug it. It is possible that the diaphram on the inside of the booster may go bad and cause a vacuum leak.

And one more place that is not always obvious is that the vacuum reserve canister in older vehicles sometimes rots out and leaks, but rarely gets checked. In older vehicles it looks like a metal juice can, in newer vehicles it is made of plastic.

 

Chrish_jr

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I'd check around the intake manifold for a leak, I had a simular problem on a ranger years ago and turned out one of the gaskets became brittle and wouldnt hold a decent seal until I was over 2k rpm (cost me about $900 for a shop to find that and a broken wire loop that ford put on it at the PS harness since mine was manual steering).

I was reading your other posting about this and the best I could suggest to start at would be a vaccume leak somewhere. Could also be a MAF issue as well, but would be shocked that it didnt through up an error code.

As stated before, and O2 sensor could be the cause as well.

really hate seeing someone put all these new parts in if they werent needed and you really did stick alot into it so far.

 
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yo

You had an EGR Flow DTC too once, right?

Try running the Self Tests again both KOEO & KOER; eng has to be @ norm op temp for KOER; so warm it up; shut it down and do KOEO first,, all lights & accessories OFF.

If you don't have DTC, then do the vac tests as Joe & Chrish advised; ck under-dash too

 

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i had this same problem a week ago,

now its back i, i have replaced the distributor, fuel pressure regulator, plugs, wires, rotor, cap, egr valve, radiator, thermostat, throtle position sensor, engine coolent sensor, and my truck is still doing the same freakin thing, it idles funny, it jumps up and down, really rough when im driving under 2000 rpms

starts perfectly when its cold but soon as it warms up to the right temp, and i let it sit for about 5 minutes its hard to start it, it cranks for a while then starts,

im really really frustrated with it all now, i dont know what else to think,

ive tried to think of new things that could be wrong and im all out of ideas,

someone please help, if i have it in drive and im sitting at the light with my foot on the brake the truck will bump forward slightly like it wants to go
Did you get this resolved? I have a carbureted 73 that has the same symptoms. I am leaning to the fuel pump and ported vacuum switches.

 

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