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Is there a programmer/performance chip for a 94 302 my computer plug in is under the hood its not the universal ones under the dash
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Sorry for uploading this twice
yo papa,
There a few chips and other devices available; but see if each requires Premium fuel.
Some comments on Chips by 2 people who know more about the Ford EEC system than anyone I have ever met or worked with;
by Sig; "...They're garbage unless they're done with YOUR vehicle on a dynamometer and an experienced tuner. The plug & go style don't do anything you can't do yourself for next to nothing. The only after-market tuning devices worth considering are the Quarter Horse and the twEECER, but only after SIGNIFICANT modifications have been made, and to the point that the factory programming can't keep up.
don't even bother with the PCM's programming until you've reached the point that it's absolutely necessary to do it. That level of modification won't be seen until the heads, intake, exhaust, and cam are changed..."
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by Ryan M; "...Ford programming has been better than any other manufacturer for years. this is why GM aftermarket computer tuning is more popular. ford computers can do more in the stock form. And you engine is no where near exceding the stock computer at this time.
MOST IMPORTANT IS COST
There are several ways to get a different engine and program. But the best way will require a new mustang computer, MAF sensor, wiring harness, and a chip tuner.
omputer: $100 - $300
MAF sensor: $100 - $200
Wiring: free junkyarding - $700
Chip: $400 - $750
Cheapest way to do it would be eBay hunting and you're still looking at $500+ for everything you'd need.
So from a dollar stand point your ...truck engine does not have enough perfromance potential to justfy the cost.
Honestly I can't really justify my own computers cost. I have spent just over a grand on MAF computer hardware.
This is one of my web sites that talks about EFI perfromance add on's. Not all of my pages are working because Taco, Pepe, and me are trying to upgrade my sorry a$$ excuse for a web site
http://fordfuelinjec...erformance.html
There are some BS chips out there.
Any "chip" that plugs in between the harness and computer is nothing but trouble.
Any "chip" that hate's the word chip and wants to be called a "programmable module" is probable the real deal. I don't have a "chip," I have an AutoLogic module. It plugs into the back of the computer on the J3 port
When a Module plugs into the J3 port, It substitutes values within the stock Ford program.
can anybody guess what comes next ???
Ford's EFI programming is so good, we keep it, we simply tell it the truth. Chips between the harness and computer lie to the computer. Lying is bad, computer will do the wrong stuff and you won't be happy. Plug into the J3 and tell the computer the truthful values, like injector size, engine displacement, ect and both computer and driver will be HAPPY
..."
Hypertech Power Module Review in a 94
Source: by Stephen R at again.net via web.archive.org
"...The next modification to the Bronco was going to be ignition work. Although the Ford ignition system worked just fine, I had read several reports about new "computer modules", so I read some specification sheets, and ordered the Hypertech Power Module, the Hypertech Power-Stat, and the Hypertech Modified Octane Bar for the distributor. I'm really not too sure this was such a great idea. I noticed no improvement in power, speed, acceleration or anything... except for the gas pump. No I didn't get more MPG, I had to switch from 87-octane gasoline to 91-octane. (The Bronco doesn't run worth a damn when I use 87-octane!) As for the Power-Stat, ****, it's just a plain old thermostat that opens about 40-degrees sooner than the factory job. What it does is make the Bronco run richer and cooler, fooling the Ford computer. WHOOP-EE!!
here are some comments by sector9507-02-2005, 08:45 PM
Personally, I think aftermarket "chips" and programmers are a waste of money. These chips and programers must meet *all* the EPA emissions requirements of the factory chip. What this means is the "performance" chip/programmer does absolutely zip under most operating conditions of the engine. So how do they claim "increased HP"? Because of a small loophole in the emisssions regulations regarding engine operation under wide open throttle (WOT). Under WOT, engine performance is maximized at the cost of increased emissions... WOT is considered sort of an emergency situation and since this condition rarely occurs under normal driving, the impact on the environment is about nil. The aftermarket "performance" chips focus their tuning in this area of engine operation buy tweaking the engine management computer; a more radical advance curve and mixture enrichments are common tweaks (you'll usually have to install a "performance" 160 deg t-stat and filler-up with premium to get the maximum HP increase). So, yes, these chips/programers can increase the *peak* HP of your engine.... but only if and when you enter the WOT mode of operation.... not likely in street driving.... even in "spirited" street driving. And peak HP is not what gives a street machine it's punch; it's a big, broad, flat torque curve that starts down low in the rpm range. These chips/programers also typically tweak the shift parameters of computer controlled auto trannies; holding each gear a bit longer, firming up the shift quality and delaying lockup and O/D operations giving a "seat of the pants" feel of improved performance (of the transmission but not the engine). With a manual box. obviously you'll not get this benefit. Think about it, if the auto makers could increase performance (HP), still meet emissions and have a high reliability rate by installing a better chip, don't you think they would?
install a chip by Ryan M. @ http://oldfuelinjection.com/?p=77
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think aftermarket "chips" and programmers are a waste of money. These chips and programmers must meet *all* the EPA emissions requirements of the factory chip. What this means is the "performance" chip/programmer does absolutely zip under most operating conditions of the engine. So how do they claim "increased HP"? Because of a small loophole in the emisssions regulations regarding engine operation under wide open throttle (WOT). Under WOT, engine performance is maximized at the cost of increased emissions... WOT is considered sort of an emergency situation and since this condition rarely occurs under normal driving, the impact on the environment is about nil. The aftermarket "performance" chips focus their tuning in this area of engine operation buy tweaking the engine management computer; a more radical advance curve and mixture enrichments are common tweaks (you'll usually have to install a "performance" 160 deg t-stat and filler-up with premium to get the maximum HP increase). So, yes, these chips/programmers can increase the *peak* HP of your engine.... but only if and when you enter the WOT mode of operation.... not likely in street driving.... even in "spirited" street driving. And peak HP is not what gives a street machine it's punch; it's a big, broad, flat torque curve that starts down low in the rpm range. These chips/programmers also typically tweak the shift parameters of computer controlled auto trannies; holding each gear a bit longer, firming up the shift quality and delaying lockup and O/D operations giving a "seat of the pants" feel of improved performance (of the transmission but not the engine). With a manual box. obviously you'll not get this benefit. Think about it, if the auto makers could increase performance (HP), still meet emissions and have a high reliability rate by installing a better chip, don't you think they would?
There a few chips and other devices available; but see if each requires Premium fuel.
Some comments on Chips by 2 people who know more about the Ford EEC system than anyone I have ever met or worked with;
by Sig; "...They're garbage unless they're done with YOUR vehicle on a dynamometer and an experienced tuner. The plug & go style don't do anything you can't do yourself for next to nothing. The only after-market tuning devices worth considering are the Quarter Horse and the twEECER, but only after SIGNIFICANT modifications have been made, and to the point that the factory programming can't keep up.
don't even bother with the PCM's programming until you've reached the point that it's absolutely necessary to do it. That level of modification won't be seen until the heads, intake, exhaust, and cam are changed..."
--
by Ryan M; "...Ford programming has been better than any other manufacturer for years. this is why GM aftermarket computer tuning is more popular. ford computers can do more in the stock form. And you engine is no where near exceding the stock computer at this time.
MOST IMPORTANT IS COST
There are several ways to get a different engine and program. But the best way will require a new mustang computer, MAF sensor, wiring harness, and a chip tuner.
omputer: $100 - $300
MAF sensor: $100 - $200
Wiring: free junkyarding - $700
Chip: $400 - $750
Cheapest way to do it would be eBay hunting and you're still looking at $500+ for everything you'd need.
So from a dollar stand point your ...truck engine does not have enough perfromance potential to justfy the cost.
Honestly I can't really justify my own computers cost. I have spent just over a grand on MAF computer hardware.
This is one of my web sites that talks about EFI perfromance add on's. Not all of my pages are working because Taco, Pepe, and me are trying to upgrade my sorry a$$ excuse for a web site
http://fordfuelinjec...erformance.html
There are some BS chips out there.
Any "chip" that plugs in between the harness and computer is nothing but trouble.
Any "chip" that hate's the word chip and wants to be called a "programmable module" is probable the real deal. I don't have a "chip," I have an AutoLogic module. It plugs into the back of the computer on the J3 port
When a Module plugs into the J3 port, It substitutes values within the stock Ford program.
can anybody guess what comes next ???
Ford's EFI programming is so good, we keep it, we simply tell it the truth. Chips between the harness and computer lie to the computer. Lying is bad, computer will do the wrong stuff and you won't be happy. Plug into the J3 and tell the computer the truthful values, like injector size, engine displacement, ect and both computer and driver will be HAPPY
..."
Hypertech Power Module Review in a 94
Source: by Stephen R at again.net via web.archive.org
"...The next modification to the Bronco was going to be ignition work. Although the Ford ignition system worked just fine, I had read several reports about new "computer modules", so I read some specification sheets, and ordered the Hypertech Power Module, the Hypertech Power-Stat, and the Hypertech Modified Octane Bar for the distributor. I'm really not too sure this was such a great idea. I noticed no improvement in power, speed, acceleration or anything... except for the gas pump. No I didn't get more MPG, I had to switch from 87-octane gasoline to 91-octane. (The Bronco doesn't run worth a damn when I use 87-octane!) As for the Power-Stat, ****, it's just a plain old thermostat that opens about 40-degrees sooner than the factory job. What it does is make the Bronco run richer and cooler, fooling the Ford computer. WHOOP-EE!!
here are some comments by sector9507-02-2005, 08:45 PM
Personally, I think aftermarket "chips" and programmers are a waste of money. These chips and programers must meet *all* the EPA emissions requirements of the factory chip. What this means is the "performance" chip/programmer does absolutely zip under most operating conditions of the engine. So how do they claim "increased HP"? Because of a small loophole in the emisssions regulations regarding engine operation under wide open throttle (WOT). Under WOT, engine performance is maximized at the cost of increased emissions... WOT is considered sort of an emergency situation and since this condition rarely occurs under normal driving, the impact on the environment is about nil. The aftermarket "performance" chips focus their tuning in this area of engine operation buy tweaking the engine management computer; a more radical advance curve and mixture enrichments are common tweaks (you'll usually have to install a "performance" 160 deg t-stat and filler-up with premium to get the maximum HP increase). So, yes, these chips/programers can increase the *peak* HP of your engine.... but only if and when you enter the WOT mode of operation.... not likely in street driving.... even in "spirited" street driving. And peak HP is not what gives a street machine it's punch; it's a big, broad, flat torque curve that starts down low in the rpm range. These chips/programers also typically tweak the shift parameters of computer controlled auto trannies; holding each gear a bit longer, firming up the shift quality and delaying lockup and O/D operations giving a "seat of the pants" feel of improved performance (of the transmission but not the engine). With a manual box. obviously you'll not get this benefit. Think about it, if the auto makers could increase performance (HP), still meet emissions and have a high reliability rate by installing a better chip, don't you think they would?
install a chip by Ryan M. @ http://oldfuelinjection.com/?p=77
\
think aftermarket "chips" and programmers are a waste of money. These chips and programmers must meet *all* the EPA emissions requirements of the factory chip. What this means is the "performance" chip/programmer does absolutely zip under most operating conditions of the engine. So how do they claim "increased HP"? Because of a small loophole in the emisssions regulations regarding engine operation under wide open throttle (WOT). Under WOT, engine performance is maximized at the cost of increased emissions... WOT is considered sort of an emergency situation and since this condition rarely occurs under normal driving, the impact on the environment is about nil. The aftermarket "performance" chips focus their tuning in this area of engine operation buy tweaking the engine management computer; a more radical advance curve and mixture enrichments are common tweaks (you'll usually have to install a "performance" 160 deg t-stat and filler-up with premium to get the maximum HP increase). So, yes, these chips/programmers can increase the *peak* HP of your engine.... but only if and when you enter the WOT mode of operation.... not likely in street driving.... even in "spirited" street driving. And peak HP is not what gives a street machine it's punch; it's a big, broad, flat torque curve that starts down low in the rpm range. These chips/programmers also typically tweak the shift parameters of computer controlled auto trannies; holding each gear a bit longer, firming up the shift quality and delaying lockup and O/D operations giving a "seat of the pants" feel of improved performance (of the transmission but not the engine). With a manual box. obviously you'll not get this benefit. Think about it, if the auto makers could increase performance (HP), still meet emissions and have a high reliability rate by installing a better chip, don't you think they would?
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