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Justshootme84

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I bought new battery, solenoid and starter for my 84 Bronco and installed them this week. The engine starts right up, but it sounds like the starte is still spinning while I'm driving. It's only noticeable at idle, and sounds like a baseball card in the spokes of a bicycle wheel. Could it be a bad starter, or a possible problem in the key/ignition switch???

 

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Hmmmmm..!

"sounds like a baseball card in the spokes of a bicycle wheel"

I thought I was the only one old enough to know what that means.. :glare:

Couldn't you pull the small wires off the solenoid (while it's running) & see if it stops.? (the noise)

&/or turn key off, jumper the coil + side, & use a remote starter button..?

I like to replace 1 item at a time...much easier to pin point a "bad" new part...which is way to common these days.

HTH,

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Hmmmmm..!
"sounds like a baseball card in the spokes of a bicycle wheel"

I thought I was the only one old enough to know what that means..  :glare:
Gee thanks. I know what that sound is too, and I thought I was still young!

Couldn't you pull the small wires off the solenoid (while it's running) & see if it stops.? (the noise)
I second this. The solenoid is the first place I'd start looking.

 
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Thanks for the replies. The starter solenoid is brand new, but I go thru them every few months it seems like. At least two per year.

 

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You could be having a problem with the starter bendix drive not returning to its neutral position (hanging up on the ring gear) or it could be a solenoid problem.

I have received a couple bad starter solenoids in the past...

If you regularly burn them up you may want to try a heavy duty or a continuous draw solenoid, such as a solenoid from a Warn 8274 upright winch.

I would also be curious to know if you have an unusually high amp draw through the starter circuit causing your short solenoid life.

 

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Yah, I don't understand the high use of solinoids either. I've had the same solinoid in mine for over 5 years and it came from another Bronco. Does the engine start within second or two or does it take a bit of cranking. Hard starting would be tough on the solinoid or maybe the brand you are getting has poor quality.

Good luck,

:)>-

 

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At our boat shop, I've gone thru 3-4 solenoids on one eng...! & these were "marine"..! Some only lasted 30 seconds.

I went to a different brand & that boat has no prob. going on two yrs...

Is the starter re-built..? Hasn't happened to me but I've heard the re-build shops machine the mount surface....this allows the starter gear to ride to close to the ring gear...? Spacers are provided to solve this.

That "card in the spokes" sound, ...did you have to remove the exhaust to get to the starter..? I've had that "flappy" sound come fr. an exh. leak.

HTH,

Bob

 

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G'day mate, I picked up a thread somewhere else recently with same problem, in that case the starter was moved away from the flywheel a bit by inserting an extra washer, then again sometimes noises travel from somewhere else, last year I bought a new Saginaw PS pump because of the noise I thought the old one made, but the noise persisted, when I installed the electric waterpump I found that the impellor on the original waterpump was scuffing against the stainless seperating plate in there causing the noise. Anyway I hope you find the problem soon.

BTW I still owe you some photo's, will do that soon.

Henk from Oz

 
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Thanks, brother Indoz, you helped solve my problem. I put a meter on the solenoid posts, and no voltage is going to the starter while running. Yet, I still hear that clicking noise under the floor, near the starter. It's not an exhaust leak, but rather an odd thing.

THe original air intake duct from the grille that went to the old air cleaner was stuck down beside the radiator, and the alternator belt was barely clipping the end of the duct. I guess the sound was deflected back and down by the shaker assembly, and I couldn't easily see it from above. When I removed the negative/ground cable at the frame to clean the end, I must have dislodged that old duct.

The starter works fine, and all is well!!! :D/

BTW, the solenoid brand is Select, from O-Reilly's. I bought one with a lifetime warranty, 4 years ago, and get a new one each time for no charge. I have no clue why they fail so often, it was that way even before I bought the Bronco. I have new cables, too. I just be sure to always carry a spare one in my tool box.

 

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