more power?

[hucklebuck bronco]

i have put headers, throttle body spacer, k&n cold air intake, msd ignition coil, have to keep emeissions friendly, but still seems like it has a lot more power that can be unleased. is there any suggestions on what else to upgrade without getting deep into the block itself?

 

[Broncobill78]

i have put headers, throttle body spacer, k&n cold air intake, msd ignition coil, have to keep emeissions friendly, but still seems like it has a lot more power that can be unleased. is there any suggestions on what else to upgrade without getting deep into the block itself?

Horsepower costs $$$, how fast can you afford to go ?

This stuff is all pretty basic. You've already got the headers so that's good, next on the list should be an intake, cam. After that you'll want a larger throttle body & a new chip (the larger TB makes no sense until you can *use* the additional fuel and the chip will get the processor to work with all the additional air you're moving thru the engine). Once you've done all that if you still want more then you need to either have your existing heads ported or (really the better choice) buy a set of new aluminum heads that already have larger valves, better porting and higher flow numbers. If you do all of THAT ans you're still wanting more then a blower(supercharger) is probably going to be what you want. The new breed of centrifugal superchargers work well with the 5.0's and a stock bottom end is strong enough as-is provided the boost is kept sane.

Of course you have to look at what you have & where you want to go, sometimes it's just a whole lot cheaper and easier to swap in a larger engine. The 351W and 460 are bolt in upgrades that provide a lot more HP & *torque* than anyone will ever see from a 5.0 but a well built 302 is an excellent Bronco engine (especially in the 66-77's and 80-96's, not so good for the heavy 78/79's)

I'd stay far, far away from nitrous. You need additional electronics to manage both the spark & fuel when using it and even with that it's still way too easy to cook your block. Also, on an unrelated note the penalty in this forum is quite severe for using the word "noss" (which isn't even a damn word anyways which just goes to point out the basic level of education of those who DO use the term) so just don't. Stay away from the stuff.

So there you have it. That's the roadmap I'D use anyways.

 

[hucklebuck bronco]

Horsepower costs $$$, how fast can you afford to go ?
This stuff is all pretty basic. You've already got the headers so that's good, next on the list should be an intake, cam. After that you'll want a larger throttle body & a new chip (the larger TB makes no sense until you can *use* the additional fuel and the chip will get the processor to work with all the additional air you're moving thru the engine). Once you've done all that if you still want more then you need to either have your existing heads ported or (really the better choice) buy a set of new aluminum heads that already have larger valves, better porting and higher flow numbers. If you do all of THAT ans you're still wanting more then a blower(supercharger) is probably going to be what you want. The new breed of centrifugal superchargers work well with the 5.0's and a stock bottom end is strong enough as-is provided the boost is kept sane.

Of course you have to look at what you have & where you want to go, sometimes it's just a whole lot cheaper and easier to swap in a larger engine. The 351W and 460 are bolt in upgrades that provide a lot more HP & *torque* than anyone will ever see from a 5.0 but a well built 302 is an excellent Bronco engine (especially in the 66-77's and 80-96's, not so good for the heavy 78/79's)

I'd stay far, far away from nitrous. You need additional electronics to manage both the spark & fuel when using it and even with that it's still way too easy to cook your block. Also, on an unrelated note the penalty in this forum is quite severe for using the word "noss" (which isn't even a damn word anyways which just goes to point out the basic level of education of those who DO use the term) so just don't. Stay away from the stuff.

So there you have it. That's the roadmap I'D use anyways.

thanx for all ur help, i am going to go with a new throttle body and chip and see what i have and take it from there.

 

[Broncobill78]

You're better off just going with the chip, at least that will give you *some* improvement. The larger throttle body will be a waste of $$$, you simply can't *use* the additional fuel it will supply until/unless you swap out the intake & cam. I mean it's certainly your cash to spend as you want but you won't see any additional performance (just the opposite, it will get worse) and your milage will go down. The engine is an air pump & until you upgrade the rest of the induction system (intake manifold) and the "brain" that controls the airflow (the cam) you'll just be sending that extra fuel out the exhaust. It's just like running an 850 dbl pumper on a stock 302, won't do a thing except bog the truck & trash your milage. I'd take the time to shop around for a few more opinions before spending your $$ in that order.

Just my opinion.

 

[bidibronco]

I agree with Bill, if you can't adjust your fuel then a bigger TB will be of no use because you'll more or less flood the engine unless you get the air in there with an itake. If it were me in this situation I would get a mild cam nothing to big and no more than around a .490 lift on either side and not far from a 114* lobe sep or you'll run into problems. I'm not sure the year of your truck but edlebrock and trick flow make some good intake heads and cam combo's for most anything (I believe holly does to but I don't "personnaly" care for them) and that'll run around a grand and they have there stuff tried and true on test they run and it's promised power. If that's not good enough then you may want to look into a 460 swap or a blower, you can't go wrong with big displacement!

 

[hucklebuck bronco]

I agree with Bill, if you can't adjust your fuel then a bigger TB will be of no use because you'll more or less flood the engine unless you get the air in there with an itake. If it were me in this situation I would get a mild cam nothing to big and no more than around a .490 lift on either side and not far from a 114* lobe sep or you'll run into problems. I'm not sure the year of your truck but edlebrock and trick flow make some good intake heads and cam combo's for most anything (I believe holly does to but I don't "personnaly" care for them) and that'll run around a grand and they have there stuff tried and true on test they run and it's promised power. If that's not good enough then you may want to look into a 460 swap or a blower, you can't go wrong with big displacement!

have you ever heard of a hypertech performance chip or if it works? would like to get some info before i purchase it.

what i have is a 1995 5.0 efi so far i put a throttle body spacer, msd ignition coil, splitfire spark plugs, ford racing shorty headers, flowmaster exhaust system, and a k&n cold air intake system. its a start but not much improvement, i think its because of computer.

 

[Broncobill78]

Hypertech makes about the best chip in the business, only problem is that they know it and are therefore the most expensive. There are cheaper chips out there but in the end you're best off doing the research. Go thru the archives, Bidi asked about this a few months back & all the info is archived along with the various links. Hypertech & the others have been around for a good 25yrs now and they have a pretty good idea about what they're doing. You'll have to keep in mind though that while you'll see *some* performance increase there just isn't a lot the chip can do until the other mods are in place. Once you can move more fuel and air thru the engine then you're in a position to take advantage of everything a chip can do for you, until then the chip will be limited by the stock cam & intake. This question has been addressed more than once, a trip thru the archives really wouldn't be a waste of your time.

 

[snowman74]

Ummm...weren't they still using speed density in the later Broncos? If you have speed density injection, all the upgrading in the world won't help you until you switch to mass air flow. A conversion kit through Sumitt or Ford Racing is something like $800. After you do the necessary computer switch/harness switch/pin change, you can throw a new cam in it and get some more power really easily. That's what I'm going to be doing this summer. I've decided to just rebuild my engine...the new blocks are just too damn expensive for me right now. If the later year 5.0's were already MAF, just put a longer duration cam in it for more HP... higher lift lobes for more torque....or did I get that bassakwards? Anyway, good luck.

Snowman74 >-

 

[hucklebuck bronco]

Hypertech makes about the best chip in the business, only problem is that they know it and are therefore the most expensive. There are cheaper chips out there but in the end you're best off doing the research. Go thru the archives, Bidi asked about this a few months back & all the info is archived along with the various links. Hypertech & the others have been around for a good 25yrs now and they have a pretty good idea about what they're doing. You'll have to keep in mind though that while you'll see *some* performance increase there just isn't a lot the chip can do until the other mods are in place. Once you can move more fuel and air thru the engine then you're in a position to take advantage of everything a chip can do for you, until then the chip will be limited by the stock cam & intake. This question has been addressed more than once, a trip thru the archives really wouldn't be a waste of your time.

thanx millions for all ur help and input ,as u can see i am new to most of this, but smarter then average. just like to make sure of things first because i hate learning the hard way. in my wallet that is. low budget here thats why i dont want to get into the block.$$$$$$$$$ if i had my own garage yes but i am doing everything in a driveway in the cold. lol

just wasted alot of money on a body lift instead of a suspension lift, they dont make the brackets for my year to raise the bumpers so now i have to manufacture my own. but it does look nice with my mickey thompson classic locks and super swampers just need to get bumpers raised. lol hate the gap between them. i ordered the chip and k&n mass flow cold air intake system

parts will be here in 6-7 days will let u all know how they turn out once i install em . again thanx everyone for all ur help and input!!!!!