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skrap420

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i need some help guys i just put a new transmission in my truck (which has been broke down since dec.) and now my 4wd doesnt want to engage when i push the button. i tried replacing the switch thinking maybe that would do the trick seeing as how it is the original and is 19yrs old. now i am stumped i checked all the wires going into the plugs on the tranny and the tc making sure all of thm had good contact and they do. is there a fuse or relay somwhere that i am missing, and does anyone have a good "easy" to read wiring diagram for this thing?

 

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yo SKRAP!

I assume you still have that BW 1356 in there?

Go thru this;

1356 Electric Shift Troubleshooting & Repair - BEST PROCESS!

Source: by Dustin S (Dustball, Mellow Yellow, Mr. Laser Boy) at http://ylobronc.users.superford.org/documents/electric1356/elec1356.htm

and yes, you have 2 Fuses for it;

100_2691.jpg

if image isn't allowed to be seen here; go to http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/679785/original/100_2691.jpg

Fuse Block Diagram in a 90

Source: by ElKabong (Ken, El Kabong) at SuperMotors.net

Darn I forget what the fuse numbers are already and I can't open another browser window; think they are 6 & 12

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here is a 1356 Electric Shift Wiring Diagram in a 93 for the heck of it; prob isn't same though as your yr.

Source: by Troll Banned (Bronco Rob, BroncoRob) at Supermotors.net

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GL!

 
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thank you. now when they say shift module are they talking about the switch or what? and if not the switch then where is this located?

 

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yo S,

Sorry 'bout that;

1356 Electric Shift Control Module Location pic; as Steve83 pointed-out, "...The module I MIS-labelled as "Airbag" is actually the Wiper Control Module (WCM). The Airbag Diagnostic Module (ADM) is light blue, wrapped in black foam, above the gas pedal..."

Source: by Ryan M (fireguy50) at http://www.fordfuelinjection.com/public/inertia_switch_87-96.jpg

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it is labeled as the Ticase control

Passenger side footwell behind kick panel

btw. here are some "EMERGENCY Shifting Info bullets from my web site; @ http://www.broncolinks.com/index.php?index=70 go there for the Hot Links if interested and also, to see more 1356 Info Links

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting Conversion Kit (pics are gone);"...The Shiftster™, Shiftster 1™ and Shiftster 2™; The Shiftster is designed as a painless bolt-on application to convert your tired old BorgWarner transfer case from electric to manual. There is NO major modification, NO removal of the transfer case or transmission. In our experience, The Shiftster 1 can be removed and re-installed in just about 10 minutes. The Shiftster 2™. Installs in 90 minutes or less and will sell for about $210.00..."

Source: by RickyB

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting Conversion Kit ;"...The Shiftster™, Shiftster 1™ and Shiftster 2™; The Shiftster is designed as a painless bolt-on application to convert your tired old BorgWarner transfer case from electric to manual. There is NO major modification, NO removal of the transfer case or transmission. In our experience, The Shiftster 1 can be removed and re-installed in just about 10 minutes. The Shiftster 2™. Installs in 90 minutes or less and will sell for about $210.00..."

Source: by RickyB at 1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting Conversion Kit (pics are gone);"...The Shiftster™, Shiftster 1™ and Shiftster 2™; The Shiftster is designed as a painless bolt-on application to convert your tired old BorgWarner transfer case from electric to manual. There is NO major modification, NO removal of the transfer case or transmission. In our experience, The Shiftster 1 can be removed and re-installed in just about 10 minutes. The Shiftster 2™. Installs in 90 minutes or less and will sell for about $210.00..."

Source: by RickyB

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting Conversion Kit ;"...The Shiftster™, Shiftster 1™ and Shiftster 2™; The Shiftster is designed as a painless bolt-on application to convert your tired old BorgWarner transfer case from electric to manual. There is NO major modification, NO removal of the transfer case or transmission. In our experience, The Shiftster 1 can be removed and re-installed in just about 10 minutes. The Shiftster 2™. Installs in 90 minutes or less and will sell for about $210.00..."

Source: by RickyB at theshiftster.com

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting; "the hole that the shift motor (shaft") fits thru is 3/4" diameter..."

Source: by justshootme84 (Randy Z, Casual Mudder) at FSB

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting; "... I recall in same thread Ricky B wrote this[/url]; I'd thought I'd share some pics for those who may like to know what the t-case 12 volt shift motor does. Or is supposed to do in my case. Just for drill I removed the small motor. You'll only need a 3/8" ratchet wrench and a long 10 mm socket to remove all 6 bolts. Three of them are about 1 1/2" long and goe thru the top right circular head of the motor. The other three bolts are about 3/4" long. One bolts to the bottom flat tang of the motor case itself (ground?) and the other two hold the wire coupler harness in place on the t-case. As I suspected the triangular shaft inside of the t-case was pointing down to indicate 4 High. By merely jiggling the front drive shaft yoke a little bit with one hand, I could very easily move the triangular shaft with my other hand and get it into 2 High..."

Source: by miesk5 at Bronco Zone Forums

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting; "... Yes, pt #84 is the shift shaft from the motor for the electric t-case. What i did was convert a pick-up/ F-350 series, slip yoke rear output, manual-shift 13-56 to a fixed yoke rear output, manual shift t-case by swapping the rear case half, tailhousing, yoke and output shaft from an electric-shift 13-56. Blade has confirmed this in previous posts as well that the internals are NOT the same for the manual and electric shift versions of the Borg-Warner 13-56 transfer case. The housing is essentially the same and interchangeable, except for the hole for the shift motor on the electric version. The 3/4" round hole that I plugged was where the motor mounted and the shift-selector shaft would be inside. The connections to the shift fork are what's different on the two versions. I suppose if you could physically turn the shift shaft manually, without having the motor installed, you could shift from one range to another. I think this would be rather hard due to lack of leverage. I know it's quite hard to shift the manual case without the in-cab lever and linkage attached..."

Source: by justshootme84 (Randy Z, Casual Mudder) at Bronco Zone Forums

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting; "...per one of the other threads someone mentioned that the electric 1356's had a square 3/8" hole in the case so it could be shifted manually if the electrics died..."

Source: by Broncobill78 (Dave) at Bronco Zone Forums

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting; (pics are gone) "... I'd thought I'd share some pics for those who may like to know what the t-case 12 volt shift motor does. Or is supposed to do in my case. Just for drill I removed the small motor. You'll only need a 3/8" ratchet wrench and a long 10 mm socket to remove all 6 bolts. Three of them are about 1 1/2" long and goe thru the top right circular head of the motor. The other three bolts are about 3/4" long. One bolts to the bottom flat tang of the motor case itself (ground?) and the other two hold the wire coupler harness in place on the t-case. As I suspected the triangular shaft inside of the t-case was pointing down to indicate 4 High. By merely jiggling the front drive shaft yoke a little bit with one hand, I could very easily move the triangular shaft with my other hand and get it into 2 High; it might be wise to keep the above mentioned ratchet and socket at the ready, as well as a pair of Channel Locks to rotate the shaft if it won't budge by hand..."

Source: by RickyB

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting; shaft, shift part number 7N095; item number 84 in 1356 Electric Shift Parts Break-Out Diagram

Source: by Steve83 (Steve, That dirty old truck) at SuperMotors.net

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting; "the hole that the shift motor (shaft") fits thru is 3/4" diameter..."

Source: by justshootme84 (Randy Z, Casual Mudder) at FSB

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting; "... I recall in same thread Ricky B wrote this[/url]; I'd thought I'd share some pics for those who may like to know what the t-case 12 volt shift motor does. Or is supposed to do in my case. Just for drill I removed the small motor. You'll only need a 3/8" ratchet wrench and a long 10 mm socket to remove all 6 bolts. Three of them are about 1 1/2" long and goe thru the top right circular head of the motor. The other three bolts are about 3/4" long. One bolts to the bottom flat tang of the motor case itself (ground?) and the other two hold the wire coupler harness in place on the t-case. As I suspected the triangular shaft inside of the t-case was pointing down to indicate 4 High. By merely jiggling the front drive shaft yoke a little bit with one hand, I could very easily move the triangular shaft with my other hand and get it into 2 High..."

Source: by miesk5 at Bronco Zone Forums

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting; "... Yes, pt #84 is the shift shaft from the motor for the electric t-case. What i did was convert a pick-up/ F-350 series, slip yoke rear output, manual-shift 13-56 to a fixed yoke rear output, manual shift t-case by swapping the rear case half, tailhousing, yoke and output shaft from an electric-shift 13-56. Blade has confirmed this in previous posts as well that the internals are NOT the same for the manual and electric shift versions of the Borg-Warner 13-56 transfer case. The housing is essentially the same and interchangeable, except for the hole for the shift motor on the electric version. The 3/4" round hole that I plugged was where the motor mounted and the shift-selector shaft would be inside. The connections to the shift fork are what's different on the two versions. I suppose if you could physically turn the shift shaft manually, without having the motor installed, you could shift from one range to another. I think this would be rather hard due to lack of leverage. I know it's quite hard to shift the manual case without the in-cab lever and linkage attached..."

Source: by justshootme84 (Randy Z, Casual Mudder) at Bronco Zone Forums

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting; "...per one of the other threads someone mentioned that the electric 1356's had a square 3/8" hole in the case so it could be shifted manually if the electrics died..."

Source: by Broncobill78 (Dave) at Bronco Zone Forums

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting; (pics are gone) "... I'd thought I'd share some pics for those who may like to know what the t-case 12 volt shift motor does. Or is supposed to do in my case. Just for drill I removed the small motor. You'll only need a 3/8" ratchet wrench and a long 10 mm socket to remove all 6 bolts. Three of them are about 1 1/2" long and goe thru the top right circular head of the motor. The other three bolts are about 3/4" long. One bolts to the bottom flat tang of the motor case itself (ground?) and the other two hold the wire coupler harness in place on the t-case. As I suspected the triangular shaft inside of the t-case was pointing down to indicate 4 High. By merely jiggling the front drive shaft yoke a little bit with one hand, I could very easily move the triangular shaft with my other hand and get it into 2 High; it might be wise to keep the above mentioned ratchet and socket at the ready, as well as a pair of Channel Locks to rotate the shaft if it won't budge by hand..."

Source: by RickyB

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting; shaft, shift part number 7N095; item number 84 in 1356 Electric Shift Parts Break-Out Diagram

Source: by Steve83 (Steve, That dirty old truck) at SuperMotors.net

1356 Electric Shift Emergency Shifting; shaft, shift part number 7N095; item number 84 in 1356 Electric Shift Parts Break-Out Diagram by Steve83

Source: by Ricky B

 

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Morning Folks, just thought I'd hop over here and say that we really appreciate all of your support (and especially Miesk's :lol: )and to letcha all know that we have done some updating on our website. There's some more pics in our Gallery (with a couple of customers from both Australia & India), and that we just added a 'Latest News & Announcements' page link (on the Home Page). Also fwiw the Shiftster actually fits more than the full size Broncos----it also works on the smaller Bronco II's, the F-Series trucks, the Rangers, Explorers & Expeditions, some of the small Mazda Navajo and Dodge pick-ups and several different species of GMC/Chevy trucks that also use a Borg Warner t-case. On top of that, we just found out that the Shiftster works on a peculiar Indian made truck called the Armada Grand.....and also on the 'Benz ML320. Also we just sold our 125th Shiftster last week, and 11 more in just the past four days. Kinda cool....... :p /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

Best regards,

Ricky B

(btw, we've recently updated our website a bit---so please take a look when ya get some time )

http://theshiftster.com/

 

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Morning Folks, just thought I'd hop over here and say that we really appreciate all of your support (and especially Miesk's :lol: )and to letcha all know that we have done some updating on our website. There's some more pics in our Gallery (with a couple of customers from both Australia & India), and that we just added a 'Latest News & Announcements' page link (on the Home Page). Also fwiw the Shiftster actually fits more than the full size Broncos----it also works on the smaller Bronco II's, the F-Series trucks, the Rangers, Explorers & Expeditions, some of the small Mazda Navajo and Dodge pick-ups and several different species of GMC/Chevy trucks that also use a Borg Warner t-case. On top of that, we just found out that the Shiftster works on a peculiar Indian made truck called the Armada Grand.....and also on the 'Benz ML320. Also we just sold our 125th Shiftster last week, and 11 more in just the past four days. Kinda cool....... :p /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

Best regards,

Ricky B

(btw, we've recently updated our website a bit---so please take a look when ya get some time )

http://theshiftster.com/

Great idea, no offense intended, but maybe you should work on a way to do that from inside the cab. I can't envision laying down in the snow or even worse, the slush or mud in the middle of winter to put a truck in 4WD. It may be fine for a warm dry area, but not in the cold sloppy areas of the country.

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