Bronco will not shift out of 2WD

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DonLawson84

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Did a forum search and found topics on other members broncos stuck in 4WD, mine is the opposite.  The truck sat for 8 years before i bought it, i was hoping driving around would help movement but still no luck.  i can look at the linkage and every looks fine with no binding,  diff fluid looks clean too.  Is there a solenoid that engages when the truck is in neutral?  i looked up the "Sonnax case saver spacer 36605-01" that the supreme commander recomends,  Sonnax website says its for "no movement or stuck in neutral position"  just looks like washer, has anyone ever used the kit?  if so can you send me a picture of where the washers were installed?

Has anyone else has a stuck in 2wd condition? 

 

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You don,

Am using a new tablet now and I have issues typing and using functions, so...

For electric shift, with some manual shift info,

Take time to save and read this by FORD;

Four Wheel Drive (4X4) General Information, Operation & Troubleshooting TSB 92-1-8 for Bronco, F Series & Ranger (COMPLETE); Includes Electric Shift On The Fly (ESOF) Troubleshooting & Hub Operation; same for 87-96; exc for that in 87; power from Fuse 6 (15 amp) to "ELECT SHIFT CONTROL MOD" WHT-PPL and CB 12 (30amp) to "ELECT SHIFT CONTROL MOD" BLK-WHT; SEE A7 and A8 in the 4x4 diagram, it shows those two wires BLK-WHT as BK/W from SHIFT MODULE to P1 BATTY and and WHT-PPL as W/P to P2

See it via hot link athttp://broncozone.com/topic/24353-4x4-wont-engage-but-both-lights-are-on/

And,1996 Bronco/F-Series

Workshop Manual by ford via http://www.diesel-dave.com/vehic/manual/stj/stjleft.htm

Will try to get to the point for better reply, but am stuck for next few weeks.

Gl!

 
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DonLawson84

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I skimmed though, will read more into detail when i have a couple minutes.  I have the manual 4wd shift with manual hubs,  i have tried direction from the owners manual, sprayed linkage with penetrating oil, and had a buddy watch the linkage as i tried to move it,  will not even go into nuetral.

 

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Yo don,

Also, how to shift in & out of 4wd

By my pal, bronco joe

http://broncozone.com/topic/13576-howto-shift-into-and-out-of-4x4-manual-and-auto-hubs/

To shift from 4H to 2H:

Move the transfer case shift lever forward to the

2H position. This can be done at any speed.

However, the front driveline will remain

engaged to the front wheels until the manual

locking hubs are disengaged. To disengage the

manual locking hubs, stop the vehicle and rotate

both hub lock selector knobs counter-clockwise

to the FREE position.

Operating in 2H with the hubs in the LOCK

position increases fuel consumption, noise,

vibration, and wear. For prolonged 2H operation

on dry pavement, set the manual locking hubs

to the FREE position.

******* To shift between 4H and 4L:

Stop the vehicle and place the automatic

transmission into NEUTRAL or depress the

clutch on manual transmission vehicles. Push the

transfer case shift **** down (toward the

ground) and at the same time pull or push the

lever straight forward or rearward (depending

on the desired position 4H or 4L) in order to

shift the transfer case. This shift should be with

one continuous motion without pausing in the N

(neutral) position. Pausing in the neutral position

can result in gear clash and difficult shifting. If,

while shifting between 4H and 4L, the transfer

case gets stuck in the N (neutral) position or is

difficult to shift into either 4H or 4L, it may be

necessary to let the vehicle roll slightly and/or

turn off the engine (particularly on vehicles

with automatic transmission).

 
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DonLawson84

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I downloaded that pdf last week and followed the steps with no luck.  Tried driving with hubs locked a couple miles hoping to loosen something up with no luck either. 

Anyone use the sonnax case saver spacer?  and pictures of the install?

 

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Don, if I read this correctly, the shift lever is stuck in 2WD and will not move and that you are on level ground, (no pressure on the drive train caused by the truck trying to roll).    Also, you can drive the truck in 2WD.  Is that correct?

 
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yes that is correct,  I have tried shifting with every variation of the following.  changing hub position, every gear (P, N, D), E brake, rolling.  I am replacing the driveshaft and rear shocks tonight and will try to pull the linkage off, i tried a couple weeks ago, but didnt want to break that plastic pivot clip.

 

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Yo Don,

Check shift fork operation....

More by ford..

Section 07-07: Transfer Case, 4x4 System, Service

1996 F-150, 250, 350 (4x4), and Bronco Vehicles with Manual Shift Transfer Case; All Bronco and F-150 4x4 Vehicles with Electronic Shift Transfer Case Only Workshop Manual

DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION

Mechanical Operation

In the 4x2 mode, torque from the transmission (7003) is transferred to the front input shaft, which in turn drives the output and fifth gear drive shaft (7061) that drives the rear axle.

The 2W-4W shift is accomplished when the 2W-4W shift fork moves the lockup collar to engage the drive sprocket on the rear output shaft splines. The drive sprocket turns the chain which turns the front output shaft driven sprocket on the front output and fifth gear drive shaft and the front driveshaft.

The high-low shift is accomplished when the high-low shift fork moves the shift collar hub to engage the front planet (7A398) to the output and fifth gear drive shaft. Torque for the input shaft (7017) is then transmitted through the sun gear, which then turns the front planet. The front planet, which is now engaged to the output and fifth gear drive shaft, provides a reduction.

Neutral

With the shift selector in neutral, no power is transmitted to either front or rear. All the planetary gears turn freely with the input shaft, and the chain sprocket floats freely on the output and fifth gear drive shaft.

Power Flow in Neutral

The following illustration shows a cross-section of the front planet. At the center, attached to the input shaft, is the sun gear. This gear meshes with four gears that surround it like planets (which is why this component is called a planetary gear). In turn, the four gears mesh with an outer gear called the ring gear (7A153).

The sun gear rotates at the speed of the transmission output. The ring gear is stationary. The front planet assembly rotates with the planetary gears as they "walk" around the inside of the ring gear to provide the gear reduction. If the output shaft is locked to the sun gear, as in high range, the output rotates at transmission output speed. If the output is locked to the front planet assembly, as in low range, the output rotates at the reduction rate.

2-Wheel Drive — High Range

When the driver selects 2H, the shift collar hub at the center of the front planet slides forward, putting the transfer case (7A195) into the high speed range (direct drive). The input shaft and the rear output shaft are locked together. This results in direct drive, straight through to the rear driveshaft. In addition, the 4-wheel drive lockup collar is disengaged so none of the 4WD components turn.

Power Flow in 2H

See diagrams

http://www.diesel-dave.com/vehic/manual/stj/stj77003.htm

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Section 07-07: Transfer Case, 4x4 System, Service

1996 F-150, 250, 350 (4x4), and Bronco Vehicles with Manual Shift Transfer Case; All Bronco and F-150 4x4 Vehicles with Electronic Shift Transfer Case Only Workshop Manual

DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION

4x4 Vehicle — Driveline Windup

Driveline windup does more than just produce hop, skip and bounce. It can also cause delays in shifting out of 4WD. Vehicles with electronic shift transfer case (7A195) permit shifting from 2WD to 4WD and back on the fly. The vehicle must be stopped and the automatic transmission (7003) put in neutral (not park) or the manual transmission clutch depressed in order to shift from 4H to 4L or back.

http://www.diesel-dave.com/vehic/manual/stj/stj77006.htm

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System, Service

1996 F-150, 250, 350 (4x4), and Bronco Vehicles with Manual Shift Transfer Case; All Bronco and F-150 4x4 Vehicles with Electronic Shift Transfer Case Only Workshop Manual

DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION

Windup and Delay — Shifting Out of 4-Wheel Drive

NOTE: To determine if driveline windup is causing delayed shifts to 2WD, jack the vehicle or lift it on a hoist with the wheels free to rotate. This should release the driveline windup, if it is present, and the transfer case (7A195) will complete its shift, if windup is the concern.

NOTE: Vehicles vary in terms of how "tight" they are. Some vehicles have a lot of "give" in the system. Softness in suspension and mounts will allow the driveline to absorb more windup before it affects performance. If driveline windup occurs, the system will tighten like a giant rubber band until the tires start slipping. A "tight" vehicle will signal the windup sooner, usually by a lot of chattering noises.

A delay or a failure to shift out of 4WD may be the result of driveline windup or extremely cold temperatures. In 4WD, windup can develop, especially if the vehicle is operated on hard, dry surfaces or in tight turns. The driver may select 2WD, but the shift doesn't take place even though the 4WD light goes out. Also, as long as the transfer case doesn't shift, the hubs remain locked and the vehicle remains in 4WD. If windup in the transfer case is severe, even backing up may not release it.

In order to return to 2WD under these conditions, two things must happen. First, if the transfer case doesn't shift right away, the vehicle will have to be driven in 4WD until the windup is relieved or until the axle warms up. Second, when it does make the shift, the driver will have to stop the vehicle and go straight in the reverse direction for at least ten feet to unlock the hubs.

http://www.diesel-dave.com/vehic/manual/stj/stj77007.htm

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4-Wheel Drive — High Range

In 4-wheel drive — high range (4H), the front planet stays where it was in the 2H shift. The action of the shift lever causes the 4-wheel drive lockup hub to move rearward, locking the chain sprocket to the rear output shaft. Now, both the rear and the front wheels are being driven in the high range.

Power Flow in 4H

http://www.diesel-dave.com/vehic/manual/stj/stj77003.htm#extract_1194

 
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DonLawson84

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Got the time to play around under the truck, found the pivot bolt with the 1" head seized in the linkage.  Removed, smoothed with emory cloth, greased and re installed.  Shifting great now.

Thank you all for the support and helpful information

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