1990 Bronco 5.8lL erratic idle when warm

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Dan 2663

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Hello to all

I have a 1990 Bronco, stock and just last week I chased down what I thought was a fuel relay problem but it turned out to be the EEC IV, Now with the new EEC IV in, the idle after it is warmed up depending on the engine temp goes erratic and the warmer the motor the worst it gets, the idle does not increase but rather it decreases and almost stalls, it happens suddenly and quick like down to a stall and right back up to normal, I thought it might have been tthe EEC IV so I returned it and hoped it was the problem but even with a new-new one it does the same. During the Fuel pump relay process I replaced two of the FP relays in that housing, fuel pressure regulator, fuel filter, and the fuel pump and with the key on the FP relay circuit drivers keep the FP running but thats all good now... Now, I have checked the EGR valve and its good, replaced the PVC, checked all vaccum lines to be good and the motor was freshened up back in 2003 by my race car guy ( I have a 9.8 sec MUSTANG 1989) he rebuilt the motor. I have put a code reader on it and it reads 84 and 13, which is ERG circuitry problem. I see a little valve in-line with a vaccum line from the canster to the throttle body / intake, and what are those little relays over on the coil bracket for, TAB & TAD. I am running out of things to check before it gets out of my range of repair and I do not wish to bring it to the dealer need I say why. May be its the control module, I know that when they go they go but could this one be intermitting or could it be as simple as a rotor and cap, (but why after its warmed up) or is there something in the distributor that might intermit that I can replace that would cause this. <_<

I need help

Thanks DAN

 

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Since you are getting EGFR codes, it may be the EGR Position sensor. If the Ecc can't tell where it is, it may be opening the EGR valve at the wrong time. The EGR should only be reintroducing exhaust gass durring cruise conditions. If it does it at idle, the engine weill run like crap. The EGR should not oppen at idle, when the engine is cold, ordurring kickdown RPM.

TAB & TAD control the air from the air pump. They are controlled by the computer and determine when and where to inject air. At idle they should be dumping the air thru the thermactor muffler.

Good luck,

:)>-

 

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LOL what hes saying is that the EGR should only open at higway speeds nto at idle because it lets exhaust gas back into the intake stream to be burnt again well actually it doesnt burn so it cools the combustion temps lowering emmisions . If the EEC doesnt know where the valve is ( open /closed ) it may be opening it at idle and this would cause the motor to not have enough fuel to run off . Hows that :D /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

 

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LOL what hes saying is that the EGR should only open at higway speeds nto at idle because it lets exhaust gas back into the intake stream to be burnt again well actually it doesnt burn so it cools the combustion temps lowering emmisions . If the EEC doesnt know where the valve is ( open /closed ) it may be opening it at idle and this would cause the motor to not have enough fuel to run off . Hows that
 
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Dan 2663

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Idle air control? Mine does something similar so let me know when you figure it out.
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Hi and thanks for your reply. I am going with the IAC but do you think that when I put the new fuel pump in that possibly the direction of the tank vent valve vaccum line are reversed. I remember that it turns freely in the top of the tank and maybe its reversed. Is it directional or not, that is the only thing that I could have done wrong quote, that might have an affect on this problem before I start replacing everything.

Dan

 
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Idle air control? Mine does something similar so let me know when you figure it out.
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Hi... I put in a new IAC vavle and it still does the same thing. I think and I did hear a vaccum leak down around the cat and bellhousing area now and figure that its affecting the Egr system causing the error code 84. I need to find where the hissing is coming from befolre buying EGR stuff.

Any idea or have you heard of this problem before.

Dan

 

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