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I had to pull the steering wheel to replace the ignition actuator.  After putting everything back together I noticed that my blinkers were not working.   Is there anything to test before I have to pull the steering wheel back off to check the blinker switch behind it?  Thanks

 

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Yo,

Hazard & Turn Switch Wiring Diagram in an 86

Source: by Seabronc (Rosie, Fred W) at

http://broncozone.com/topic/15499-inspection-blues/

Easy checks first;

Fuse #1

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Fuse Block Diagram in an 86 w/ Nomenclature

I BELIEVE there is a seperate Hazard Flasher Behind Fuse Panel

The flasher on front of panel I BELIEVE is for just the turn signals.

Check for open circuit, short circuit or poor ground.

 
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Alright thanks.  The hazard flashers work.  The blinkers worked before I pulled the steering wheel off could something have not gotten aligned right to make the turn signal lever not work properly?

 

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Yo,

OK.

"...a broken plastic part on the turn signal cam. Common problem.

Unscrew/remove the turn signal/tilt lever, pull the steering wheel (you may need a steering wheel puller) and remove the turn signal switch screws.

The turn signal switch harness is a very tight fit through the steering column to the connector under the dash, especially with the harness connector attached.

First, look closely at the new signal harness connector at the end of the new harness and write down the wire color locations. Ensure that the new connector is the same as the old one.

Locate the base of the signal harness connector under the dash by pulling on the top from the signal switch. Be sure that you locate the correct wires!!!

Then I just cut the wires on the old signal cam harness before the old connector and pulled it out from the top of the column.

Un-pin the wires from the new connector and tape/feed the wires back down through the column.

Re-pin the new connector, referencing the old one, and reconnect to the main harness.

Re-install the turn signal switch, steering wheel and turn signal lever and your done.

I highly recommend a new Ford Turn Signal Switch & Harness for longevity and especially "feel". (Aftermarket Turn Signal Switches break easily and feel "funny")..." by SEATTLEFSB

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/72346/fullsize/columntilt-exploded.jpg

Turn Signal Switch Replacement & Repair Info w/Tilt Wheel in an 89; "...The white plastic that takes up half the column is the turn signal switch. The red box in the top right is the steering wheel lock. When you turn the key, it goes down. The switch is only held down by two screws. One where my ***** driver is, and another, same spot, on the bottom. When I removed by wheel, I saw my top ***** sitting at the bottom of the column. Once I put the ***** back in and tightened them both up, everything was fine. The switch now stays in place, and the lever is now able to push the tilt bar backwards, releasing the wheel. I didn't have to replace my switch, but you see how easy it is now if you must do it. I thought about it - everything's off right now...spend 30 bucks and never think about this again... But then again it took me 10 minutes to get to the switch - I'll save my 30 and go drop it at poker. Check out last photo... If your turn signal does not snap back after turning, read on. Wanted to quickly explain how that works. When you lit the lever, the switch locks in place (green box in pic). There is a little ring around the steering shaft. As you turn, that ring rotates around the shaft until a little block on the ring hits an arm (red box) and the arm releases the lock. When my whole switch was loose, it moved the ring up the shaft a bit, and the little block wasn't hitting the arm. If your lever doesn't snap back after a turn, either the ring moved up, or the plastic lever and/or arm on the switch broke..."

by Brahma502 at

http://www.supermotors.net/registry/15076/71228

See pics

To view narrative, under Brahma502 name in upper left, click Select Alternate View; clicK Thumbnails + Captions

Check fuse #5

Replace flasher

Check for open circuit, short circuit or poor ground.

 
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After checking my fuses and the wiring I got them to come on but when i turned the right blinker on all corners would blink and when I turned my left one on all corners would be on.  Could this be caused by a faulty flasher or what?  Im at a loss with this.

 

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Yo,

I suspect Ground G701 is loose or wires to it from turn signal switch are cut.

Location in an 86 (see diagram #5); G701 Behind IP near RH side of radio; G801 On LH inner fender behind headlights; G802 On RH inner fender behind headlights; G903 At LH side of rear crossmember; G909 at lower LH cowl access hole; G1003 On LH side of frame behind front crossmember; G1006 Rear LH side of frame at rear crossmember; G1303 at LH radiator support

Source: by Seabronc @ http://broncozone.com/topic/12838-brake-lights/

 
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Well I checked all the grounds and they all seem to be hooked up and tight from what I can tell.  When I turn on the right blinker all the lights on the dash blink as well as all the front and rear blinkers and when I turn on the left blinker all the blinkers front and rear are just on constant.

 
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Also I changed out the license plate light because neither were working and only one came on after changing the bulbs.  The one that works also blinks when the blinker is turned on I didnt know if there could be a ground problem back there that would be causing them to do this or not.   

 

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Yo,

License Plate Lamps also use G701. BINGO!

Check front lamp Grounds too, see attached diagram.

Defective Flashers usually cause other issues such as No turn signals light on either side or Turn signals light, but do not flash.

Will need to think about this more.

But I would be guessing if all the grounds are ok.

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Alright. Where exactly is the g701 ground. I looked behind the radio and every ground was fine behind it.

 

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Yo,

ok one of the ground wires grom turn switch may be open.

It is very difficult for me to keep Seabronc's wiring diagram open long enough to memorize all the wire colors.

So check these two:

Orange/light blue

Light green/ orange

 

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The 701 ground is typically on the center of the fire wall to the right of the gas pedal.  

:)>-

 
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I see this under the hood that has two wires coming off that are not connected.  Could this be my problem?  If so where are they supposed to be connected?

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Yo dlholland1,

I have no idea of what the two wires connect to there. In left hand pic, I see a single wire connector. In other, I see just wires. My tablet has poor resolution so I cant even guess.

Only thing that I would do is to list what else doesn't operate or operate correctly, aside from the turn signals and go from there using a wiring diagram.

 
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Alright I'll try and get better pictures whenever I can work on it with some daylight. I did notice that when I turn on the headlights the turn signal does nothing left or right.

 

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