HELP ME! Need to know specs! 88 Bronco XLT 5.8l 351w
Posted 21 March 2010 - 02:12 PM
Posted 21 March 2010 - 02:37 PM
Congrats on the Bronco!
made a mistake 15 years ago by telling someone to use the Driver's side label to ID their Rear Differential (axle, pumpkin type, etc.); turned out that a previous owner had swapped a Dana 60 in place of the stock 8.8
so... a run down;
See Differential, Ford, Overview, all types
Source: by Kenneth at http://badshoeproduc...s.com/rear.html
Photo 1 - The 9” rear ends have a removable “hog-head” center carrier and is about 10” from the bottom to the top stud. The 9” was introduced in 1957 and ran to mid 80's.
Photo 3 - 8.8” rear’s have a ten bolt inspection plate on the back that’s about 10” from the center of the top bolt to the bottom bolt center. The 8.8” first saw service in the 79 Crown Vic. and in 1980 for the F100/150.
Photo 7 - The 10.25" used on some Light duty F250 and Heavy duty F150's, 12 bolts on cover and top to bottom bolts are about 11 5/8" apart.
Dana 44 use as front axle on 4x4's also as rear axles on some late 70 F100's. Has 10 bolts, normally has a fill plug on the cover and top to bottom bolt head centers are about 9 1/4".
Axle Codes, Bronco, Rear from 85 & 90 Owner's Manuals; Now go get your owner's manual, it usually comes w/the truck and says "Owner's Manual" or similar in english on the cover. Damnit, I already hear your whining, "I lost my owner's manual. Stop. Helm Publishing will be happy to sell you a new one, and even if you're an experienced gearhead the owner's manual makes good bedtime reading. It'll tell you stuff like fluid capacities, towing capacities (ever wonder exactly how much tongue weight that stock step bumper is rated at??), and all sorts of other cool stuff. So stop the whining and click http://www.helminc.com. Now, here's the combined codes from 85 and 90 Bronco owner's manuals; this should cover most if not all codes out there: REGULAR: (Regular means "open" diff in this context) 13 4.11 14 3.00 16 3.50 18 3.08 19 3.55 LIMITED SLIP: H3 4.11 H4 3.00 H5 4.10 H6 3.50 H8 3.08 H9 3.55 If you have 3 digits on your axle code the first two digits are the rear axle code. Thus, looking at my pics above and cross-referencing the chart above my '90 came from the factory w/3.55's and Ford's sorry excuse for a limited slip differential, the Crap-Lok, er I mean Trak-Lok. Now, to know if the front diff is open or limited slip I'm ass-uming you have to look for a tag on the diff, as there is no "front axle code" on the door jamb sticker..." Miesk5 Note, I'll add that the axle code for some years (Maybe all ) adds a 2 after the limited slip code if the front is also limited slip. So the code "H9" is a 3.55:1 limited slip rear axle only. "H92" would be a 3.55:1 limited slip on both axles. by ElKabong (Ken, El Kabong)
Source: by Ford & Helm via Keith L (TTB Blows, Bling-Bling) at http://web.archive.o...m/axlecode.html
Slow to Load
see it for better layout than above
& for ratio;
Ring & Pinion Calculator by counting teeth Source: by therangerstation.com
AOD - E4OD Identification;
If the shifter has a P-R-N-OD-D-1 pattern, the transmission must be an AOD (applicable to 1980-1993 vehicles).
If a 1989-1993 truck has an Overdrive Cancel Switch and a P-R-N-OD-2-1 shifter pattern, then it is equipped with an E4OD transmission
You can measure the transmission fluid pan to determine which transmission you have if identification information is not available. A 4R70W transmission pan has an overall length of just under 15 inches, while an E4OD pan is much larger, measuring about 20 inches in overall length.-
But a visual depiction is better!
C 6, AOD E4OD, 4R Pan Identification & Driver Side pic
Source: by technicalvideos.com http://www.technical...nsmission.phtml
Borg Warner Identification; "...The model number is cast into the rear housing, and sometimes stamped into an ID tag on a tailhousing bolt. This is a 93 EB Bronco1356 ESOF..." Source: by Steve83 (Steve, That dirty old truck) at http://www.supermoto...ry/media/773280
Depictions; 1345, 1350 & 1356
Source: by Ventures Truck Parts and Equipment L.C. http://www.venturesp...-indetification
Difference/Measurements, 1356 vs, NEW PROCESS 205 in a 94
Source: by Damon H (Plug Ugly) at http://fullsizebronc...ead.php?t=34687
NEW PROCESS 203 Exterior Parts Diagrams; Shifter Assembly, Mounts, Transmission Adapter, etc.
Source: by Indybronco http://www.supermoto.../media/307046_1
208 Parts Break-Out Diagram
Source: by transtarindustries.com http://www.transtari...load.asp?ID=661
Atlas 4 Speed pics in a 96
Source: by GKR (Greg R) at http://www.supermoto...try/12207/67797
5.0 vs. 5.8 (EFI) Identification
Source: by Ryan M (Fireguy50) at http://web.archive.o...cle&articleid=7
5.8 Parts Break-Out Diagram, External
Source: by Steve83 (Steve, That dirty old truck) at http://www.supermoto.../media/624513_1
5.0 Parts Break-Out Diagram, External
Source: by Steve83 (Steve, That dirty old truck) at http://www.supermoto.../media/624439_1
of course; it could have 460 in htere..etc..
I have info on other engine sizes and type in my site under ENGINE, V8 or six cylider, and Diesel (yep.. we have a bunch of motivated folks here!
As well as other components/systems
Door Jamb Label (Data Plate, also referred to as the Patent Plate & the Warranty Plate) http://www.supermoto...a.php?id=219542
As an example, a pic for a 94
Source: by Adrianspeeder (The OJ Special, The Lariat, The Bronco) at http://www.supermoto...a.php?id=219542
from this Plate; you could assume you have a rear diff code of 19 installed in his Bronco;
Basing on this;
Bronco, Rear from 85 & 90 Owner's Manuals; "Note, I'll add that the axle code for some years (Maybe all ) adds a 2 after the limited slip code if the front is also limited slip. So the code "H9" is a 3.55:1 limited slip rear axle only. "H92" would be a 3.55:1 limited slip on both axles. by ElKabong http://web.archive.o...m/axlecode.html
Source: by Ford & Helm via Keith L (TTB Blows, Bling-Bling) at homestead.com via web.archive.org
CODE 19 = 3.55 ratio
and that would be for a Ford 8.8 diff
Bronco & F Series Differential, Front & Rear Brands in 91-93
Source: by Steve83 (Steve, That dirty old truck) at http://www.supermoto...try/media/76017
Also, VIN Decoder Chart for 81-86 & 87-96 Bronco & Ford Trucks BEST!
Source: by lmctruck.com http://www.lmctruck....ll.aspx?Page=11
Build Sheet Information w/original build date, optional equipt., axle ratio, paint color, etc. & Build Sheet; Build Sheet pic in an 88
Source: by Surveyor at Ford Bronco Zone Forums http://broncozone.co...showtopic=18400
Build Sheet (Ford 999 Report) Now costs $ since Ford xferred all data to HELMS @ Shopfordgear.com
Helms charges $17.00 for a "Basic" Sheet and $48.00 for a "Deluxe" sheet. Helms is Ford's Official Publisher for Ford EVTMs, Owner Manuals, Wiring Diagrams, etc.
Build Sheet Location Synopsis; Locations vary because it depended upon who threw it in the Bronco on the production line vs. those who took time to place it same place for 18 years: "...under the driver's or passenger side carpet, in the fiberglass top hidden behind the rear trim piece, driver's side in a 79 by Ziggy; under my carpet on the right side in the back in a 92 by M. Cardholder; under the carpet directly behind the front passenger seat, Under the cardboard spacer sheet/heat shield in an 88 by Dustball; under the drivers side of your front seat between the seat springs and the cushion in an 86 F 150 by Hoxviii; underneath the carpet under the drivers seat and another in the back end underneath the carpet in an 88 by Xris; Ive found them in the back seat front seat Passenger floor Board and head liner...Gently feel your back seat for paper under the vinyl...Same with the back and then under the seats...Possibly under passenger carpeting rubber mat in a 78 by F1rocco; under my rear deck carpet and padding, taped to the bed in an 89 by Buckin' 89Bronco...";
Tranny Code from Door Jamb Label;
See Code Information by Type, Vehicle, Engine, Ratios, Fluid, Shift Indicator Pattern, Code, Pan
Source: by Adrianspeeder http://www.fourdoorb...read.php?t=1244
So, Trans code= E, that is an E4OD based on Adrian's Listing and Pan ID
(I have PAN ID info LINKS in my site under Transmission, Auto, E4OD and da 4R..
Also see my site for the PAINT CODE from the jamb label; such as,
Paint Color Code Location, Bronco, 85-96; "...1985 and Newer is on the driver door. There will be a white sticker. Towards the bottom of the sticker in the left hand corner it will say paint. This is decieving because underneath of the word paint is the body style code. What you want is the 2 digits or letters above the word paint..."
Source: by levineautoparts.com http://www.levineaut...erismypain.html
what else?.. to be continued...
THANKS to ALL WHO SERVE!
Posted 21 March 2010 - 11:10 PM
Thank you very much M5! I noticed you were the pretty much "Mr. Bronco" around here and knew you would answer me out of all threads i have read so far. Your knowledge and direction is going to help me through many obstacles in the future im sure
Posted 22 March 2010 - 05:15 AM
But many, especially Seabronco, Justshootme84, BroncoJoe, Roadkill, Broncoholics, BLADE262US, Broncobill78, and (I know I missed someone and that isn't good).... quite a few others have set the path for folks to DIY here. Including all the people who did the jobs and posted the info on the www so I could gather it into my site.
I forgot to add that you should begin with the door jamb label, VIN & the Vehicle Emission Control Information (VECI) Decal
Get the VECI On-Line for Free at Ford.
Click "Quick Guides" in left panel;
Scroll to & CLICK VECI Labels "Provides Vehicle Emission Control Information (VECI)
Enter applicable info (need to know your Calibration number from your driver's side B-pillar sticker). It is a diff sticker from the door jamb label. Vacuum Diagram is the same as the one on the core support or hood or air filter cover. Also contains Emission Parts List; for 88 & UP
Source: by Ford @ http://www.motorcraftservice.com
Then use Door Jamb Label for the other info;
Verify the info on both (VECI & Door Jamb Label)
Door Jamb Label (Data Plate, also referred to as the Patent Plate & the Warranty Plate) pic for an 88 Source: by Jem270 at SuperMotors.net
For the front differential; stock is the Dana 44 TTB in 80 up; Confirm using:
Identification; Cover Gasket Depiction
Source: by usgear.com @ http://www.usgear.com/tl/dana1.htm
for rear diff http://www.usgear.com/tl/ford1.htm
in case it isn't above, see if a 9 inch was swapped in
or a DANA 60, etc. http://www.usgear.com/tl/dana2.htm
Another possible Swap is the DANA 44 Straight Axle;
Parts Break-Out Diagram in 78-79 w/Nomenclature (see Cover)
Source: by Ford via broncocity.com at http://www.broncocit...8_79_dana44.htm
Cover Depiction, Solid Axle in 78-79
Source: by Ventures Truck Parts and Equipment L.C. at http://www.venturesp...na_Model_44.JPG
Edited by miesk5, 22 March 2010 - 05:44 AM.
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