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95 5.8L may have been flooded in IKE...I got FOAM foam on dipstick / under oil cap

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Post icon  Posted 22 October 2009 - 09:57 AM

I recently had a 95 eddie bauer 5.8L transported to me from galveston TX. I'm pretty sure it was there for hurricane IKE. I checked the oil when I first got it, and it seemed okay besides alot of rust-type residue(which could be a whole other story). It's starting to get really cold here, and I have only used the truck to go to and from work so far, as it has 260K+ miles on it. Upon checking the oil today, the dipstick was covered in thick white foam. Could that be from water vapor in oil not getting to temp from short drives in cold weather?... or possibly an after effect from going through the hurricane? I've been driving it for about 2 weeks now.
any suggestions appreciated before I go take it to a mechanic!!

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 11:16 AM

sometimes moisture will cause foam on oil cap but if your oil is milky foam sounds like headgasket to me
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 12:32 PM

i agree with 2%. does it use anti freeze?
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Post icon  Posted 22 October 2009 - 12:48 PM

View Postbobstrat, on Oct 22 2009, 04:32 PM, said:

i agree with 2%. does it use anti freeze?

yeah it uses antifreeze.... and I just checked it again and it's fine after sitting for about an hour or so. it seems to get foamy when it runs, and then settles out as it sits.... what should I expect to pay for new headgaskets installed?

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 01:48 PM

depends on where you get it done honestly ive seen it from 200-700 depending on vehicle and gaskets they use or if head needs machined. Get multiple quotes if possible and go with reputable shop. I do my own so I cant really help alot here
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 04:37 PM

If you really think that it might have been underwater, then give it an oil change, and say a prayer.

If you are loosing coolent, and don't see it dripping, then the oil change is probably a waste of $15 - $20.
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 05:04 PM

another thing you can try is look behind the door panels or under dash and see if there is mud or dirt if it was a flood vehicle there will be evidence of it being submerged usually
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 06:48 PM

If its a head gasket, plan on spending some money. You dont do one, you do both. And with that kind of mileage, your askin for trouble. My reccomendation is to either 1: completely rebuild that motor, or 2: buy a long block. For what it costs to put new head gaskets on a 351, you might as well go all the way and be done with it.
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 10:55 PM

i would run a compression test on it. at the very least i'd hook a vacuum gauge up to it, just to be sure it is a gasket problem before i took it to a mechanic. it sounds very much like it's the gasket, but taking a 260k motor to a shop for head gaskets is opening a can of worms. i'd decide how much the truck is worth to me, then either go with the rebuild/long block, as 50joe suggested above, or find another running small block. you could find a decent junkyard motor for the price of the head gasket job. i might actually do both, put a running engine in it, and rebuild the old one with no pressure to get it done quickly. let's you save money for the high quality/performance parts, instead of cutting corners because the truck is down.

are you anywhere near NJ?

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Post icon  Posted 02 November 2009 - 02:12 PM

View Postbobstrat, on Oct 24 2009, 01:55 AM, said:

i would run a compression test on it. at the very least i'd hook a vacuum gauge up to it, just to be sure it is a gasket problem before i took it to a mechanic. it sounds very much like it's the gasket, but taking a 260k motor to a shop for head gaskets is opening a can of worms. i'd decide how much the truck is worth to me, then either go with the rebuild/long block, as 50joe suggested above, or find another running small block. you could find a decent junkyard motor for the price of the head gasket job. i might actually do both, put a running engine in it, and rebuild the old one with no pressure to get it done quickly. let's you save money for the high quality/performance parts, instead of cutting corners because the truck is down.

are you anywhere near NJ?

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 03:45 PM

i wouldnt suggest driving it any longer until you find out whats wrong. if it is a head gasket and you get too much water in a cylinder it could "hydraulic" and that would be catostrophic engine damage ! ie.. broken piston / rod / block ect... i seen this happen on a ford 3.8 v6 it had a little leak and was just producing steam out the tailpipe then the gasket gave away all at once and filled the cylinder with water while it was running, then bang it was done.

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 09:55 AM

View Postriggermortis, on Nov 2 2009, 06:45 PM, said:

i wouldnt suggest driving it any longer until you find out whats wrong. if it is a head gasket and you get too much water in a cylinder it could "hydraulic" and that would be catostrophic engine damage ! ie.. broken piston / rod / block ect... i seen this happen on a ford 3.8 v6 it had a little leak and was just producing steam out the tailpipe then the gasket gave away all at once and filled the cylinder with water while it was running, then bang it was done.

I finally got some pics uploaded in my albums of the truck, and the questionable foam under the oil cap..... here it is.

any suggestions?..... also, the valve at the top of the picture that looks like a bike tire valve seems to be leaking fuel. Should I cap this valve or does it need to be left open? (**clueless**)

any assistance is greatly appreciated.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 04:38 PM

i would do compression test on it. your local napa, checker, autozone, ect.. should have a tester to loan/rent and tell you how to use it its pretty simple. as far as the schrader valve no its not supposed to leak and it does work just like a tire valve. and you should be able to pick one up when you get the compression tester.
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