i am considering a body lift maybe 3" what are opinions of these and will i have to modify anything to install it? also if i went with a 4" suspension lift what all has to be changed that doesent come in the kit ie. shocks, steering components, etc? any help would be appreciated.
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body lift
#2
Posted 29 May 2009 - 02:56 PM
Ive had body lifts on every truck Ive built and have never had any problems with them,They are a good cheap way to get 2 to 3 inches of lift..Of course you'll get the idiots that say that they can feel the truck sway,,Well no shit ,,Thats what happens when you lift a truck,Body or suspension..Your raising the center of gravity. As for your suspension lift,,You'll most likey need longer brake lines depending on the lift company.Some give you drop down brackets others require new lines,which you replace with the steel braded lines. You might need a drop pitman arm,or longer steering components,again depending on the brand of lift.Hope this helps in some way,Im sure others who respond will also come up with more stuff that I may be forgetting.
This post has been edited by muddrivermike: 29 May 2009 - 02:57 PM
1978 bronco
351 M
Headers
Dual 3 inch exhaust
C6 Trans
Eledbrock intake
600 holley
DUI distributor
9 inch suspension lift
3 inch body lift
Dana 60 rear
Trac loc in rear
Dana 60 front axle
4.56 gears
40 inch Ground hawgs
8000lb warn winch
Road armor bumper
Kayline soft top
Factory roll bar
http://www.mudspace.com/muddrivermike
http://broncograveya...ord-bronco.html
351 M
Headers
Dual 3 inch exhaust
C6 Trans
Eledbrock intake
600 holley
DUI distributor
9 inch suspension lift
3 inch body lift
Dana 60 rear
Trac loc in rear
Dana 60 front axle
4.56 gears
40 inch Ground hawgs
8000lb warn winch
Road armor bumper
Kayline soft top
Factory roll bar
http://www.mudspace.com/muddrivermike
http://broncograveya...ord-bronco.html
#3
Posted 29 May 2009 - 04:19 PM
I added some comments on body lifts in my thread about trimming the fenders. One of the downsides of the 3" body lifts on both the 78 and 79 was the wear on the steering shaft and ragjoint. JSM84
1984 Bronco XLT, 460, C-6 AT, Dana60, Sterling 10.25", 36" GYR RT-II's on H1 rims, S&W Racecars 10-pt cage kit, PRP racing seats, tube doors, Herculiner, custom "shaker" assembly.
1988 Bronco Custom, 302 EFI, C-6 AT, Ford 8.8". parting out
1986 Bronco Custom, 300-I6, NP435 4sp, Ford 8.8", new paint
1988 F-350, 4WD, 460 EFI, C-6Dana 60, Sterling 10.25 (donor)
1978 Bronco Custom, 351M, NP435, Currie Ford 9" w/ spool
1979 F-150 4WD, 351M, C-6, 4.10 gears w/ 35" mud tires
1988 Bronco Custom, 302 EFI, C-6 AT, Ford 8.8". parting out
1986 Bronco Custom, 300-I6, NP435 4sp, Ford 8.8", new paint
1988 F-350, 4WD, 460 EFI, C-6Dana 60, Sterling 10.25 (donor)
1978 Bronco Custom, 351M, NP435, Currie Ford 9" w/ spool
1979 F-150 4WD, 351M, C-6, 4.10 gears w/ 35" mud tires
#4
Posted 29 May 2009 - 04:22 PM
sohc- superlift makes a good body kit. they have the necessary hardware such as extension for steering or tranny linkage, or whatever you may need depending on application. you may have to cut out bottom of shroud to clear fan.
76 Early Bronco, Special Decor Package, 302, C4, Dana 20, Dana 44, 9", Hatteras green poly, 5.5" superlift, 36" swampers
78 F-100 Custom 2WD 302, C4, Dana 44, black, a/c
79 F-150 Ranger 4WD 400, C6, NP 205, Dana 44, 9", Walnut Glow/ Light sand, a/c cc
97 Chevy S-10 4WD 4.3, Standard red, a/c cc
78 F-100 Custom 2WD 302, C4, Dana 44, black, a/c
79 F-150 Ranger 4WD 400, C6, NP 205, Dana 44, 9", Walnut Glow/ Light sand, a/c cc
97 Chevy S-10 4WD 4.3, Standard red, a/c cc
#5
Posted 29 May 2009 - 04:50 PM
Thats funny Ive had this truck for about 5 years and and always go wheeling with it and NEVER had any problems with the rag joint or steering shafts. Ive also had a 74 f150 and a 76 f150 along with my current 78 bronco all with 3 inch body lifts and suspension lifts and never had any problems with those steering shafts.My friends also have had 70 something fords and they never had any problems. Im not trying to shoot down your comment or anything,This is just what my encounters have been with these trucks.
1978 bronco
351 M
Headers
Dual 3 inch exhaust
C6 Trans
Eledbrock intake
600 holley
DUI distributor
9 inch suspension lift
3 inch body lift
Dana 60 rear
Trac loc in rear
Dana 60 front axle
4.56 gears
40 inch Ground hawgs
8000lb warn winch
Road armor bumper
Kayline soft top
Factory roll bar
http://www.mudspace.com/muddrivermike
http://broncograveya...ord-bronco.html
351 M
Headers
Dual 3 inch exhaust
C6 Trans
Eledbrock intake
600 holley
DUI distributor
9 inch suspension lift
3 inch body lift
Dana 60 rear
Trac loc in rear
Dana 60 front axle
4.56 gears
40 inch Ground hawgs
8000lb warn winch
Road armor bumper
Kayline soft top
Factory roll bar
http://www.mudspace.com/muddrivermike
http://broncograveya...ord-bronco.html
#6
Posted 29 May 2009 - 05:41 PM
Sure, and I don't mind a different opinion. that's what the forum is for, to get experiences from more than just one person or one rig. I have a hunch that the steering shaft and ragjoint on the 78 Bronco were original, and had never been serviced. Took over 3 hours to change out, since the steering was completely shot. Then again, s owere the rear brakes. The 38" tires don't help any either, adding more stress to the steering.
One of the issues I do have with a body lift is having to extend the steering shaft. It's usually a matter of just pulling it out farther from the firewall, since it does have some range of movement or a telescoping feature. My point is that there is more of an angle on the u-joint at top by the firewall with a body lift than stock, and that can increase the wear on that part.
Another issue to deal with on a body lift is re-locating the bumpers to fit the body lines. The design of the 78/79 frame horns for the front bumper make it difficult to just move the bumper up 3". I did make some brackets for the 79 out of 3" channel, but the bottom edge of the bumper hits the frame. Not a real big issue unless trying to re-locate a winch bumper.
I've done a couple of 3" body lifts where we had to deal with the 4WD t-case shift lever hitting the floorpan.
One of the issues I do have with a body lift is having to extend the steering shaft. It's usually a matter of just pulling it out farther from the firewall, since it does have some range of movement or a telescoping feature. My point is that there is more of an angle on the u-joint at top by the firewall with a body lift than stock, and that can increase the wear on that part.
Another issue to deal with on a body lift is re-locating the bumpers to fit the body lines. The design of the 78/79 frame horns for the front bumper make it difficult to just move the bumper up 3". I did make some brackets for the 79 out of 3" channel, but the bottom edge of the bumper hits the frame. Not a real big issue unless trying to re-locate a winch bumper.
I've done a couple of 3" body lifts where we had to deal with the 4WD t-case shift lever hitting the floorpan.
1984 Bronco XLT, 460, C-6 AT, Dana60, Sterling 10.25", 36" GYR RT-II's on H1 rims, S&W Racecars 10-pt cage kit, PRP racing seats, tube doors, Herculiner, custom "shaker" assembly.
1988 Bronco Custom, 302 EFI, C-6 AT, Ford 8.8". parting out
1986 Bronco Custom, 300-I6, NP435 4sp, Ford 8.8", new paint
1988 F-350, 4WD, 460 EFI, C-6Dana 60, Sterling 10.25 (donor)
1978 Bronco Custom, 351M, NP435, Currie Ford 9" w/ spool
1979 F-150 4WD, 351M, C-6, 4.10 gears w/ 35" mud tires
1988 Bronco Custom, 302 EFI, C-6 AT, Ford 8.8". parting out
1986 Bronco Custom, 300-I6, NP435 4sp, Ford 8.8", new paint
1988 F-350, 4WD, 460 EFI, C-6Dana 60, Sterling 10.25 (donor)
1978 Bronco Custom, 351M, NP435, Currie Ford 9" w/ spool
1979 F-150 4WD, 351M, C-6, 4.10 gears w/ 35" mud tires
#7
Posted 29 May 2009 - 06:55 PM
1978 bronco
351 M
Headers
Dual 3 inch exhaust
C6 Trans
Eledbrock intake
600 holley
DUI distributor
9 inch suspension lift
3 inch body lift
Dana 60 rear
Trac loc in rear
Dana 60 front axle
4.56 gears
40 inch Ground hawgs
8000lb warn winch
Road armor bumper
Kayline soft top
Factory roll bar
http://www.mudspace.com/muddrivermike
http://broncograveya...ord-bronco.html
351 M
Headers
Dual 3 inch exhaust
C6 Trans
Eledbrock intake
600 holley
DUI distributor
9 inch suspension lift
3 inch body lift
Dana 60 rear
Trac loc in rear
Dana 60 front axle
4.56 gears
40 inch Ground hawgs
8000lb warn winch
Road armor bumper
Kayline soft top
Factory roll bar
http://www.mudspace.com/muddrivermike
http://broncograveya...ord-bronco.html
#8
Posted 21 June 2009 - 07:30 PM
I've always liked body lifts. Since I swapped in an F800 steering joint with a grease fitting, wear shouldnt be an issue, either.

This should be strong enough!
A 3" body lift makes everything easier to work on underneath, too. A body lift does raise the truck's center of gravity some, but not as much as a suspension lift does.

This should be strong enough!
A 3" body lift makes everything easier to work on underneath, too. A body lift does raise the truck's center of gravity some, but not as much as a suspension lift does.
* 1983 Bronco - '95 300 converted to carb with '95 5-speed, 3.55s, 9" rear
* 1978 Bronco - Newly acquired project truck - soon to be 5.9L Cummins powered.
* 1996 EB Bronco - 5.8L auto, 160k miles- The wife's truck.
* 1977 Mustang II - 530hp 332" stroker motor, C4 "mighty mite", 3.10s in a 9" detroit locker
* 1978 Bronco - Newly acquired project truck - soon to be 5.9L Cummins powered.
* 1996 EB Bronco - 5.8L auto, 160k miles- The wife's truck.
* 1977 Mustang II - 530hp 332" stroker motor, C4 "mighty mite", 3.10s in a 9" detroit locker
#9
Posted 22 June 2009 - 06:32 PM
On my 89 I wheeled it for 3 years pretty hard with a 3 inch body lift. held up pretty good. The steering shaft was very sloppy where the bottom shaft slides into the top shaft. I could almost seperate the 2 by pushing sideways against the shaft. I just put a new one in today and it wont move a bit side to side. The tranny linkage had to be loosened and re-adjusted and the shroud wasnt re-installed which led to very annoying overheating problems. I had a spare kicking around so I modified it to fit. Had to be cut at the bottom for the fan and the top had to be notched for the upper rad hose.
89 fullsize with 95 front end swap.
460 C6 D60 front, 10.25 rear 4.10 gears
3 inch body lift, 4.5 inch lift from 1 ton swap.
Lund Moonvisor
Korupt Kittens antenna dancer.
93 F350 4door 4wd 7.3 diesel huge beast of a truck
84 F150 351 H.O. C6 2wd (the parts getter)
'03 Expedition 5.4
BFG All Terrains
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460 C6 D60 front, 10.25 rear 4.10 gears
3 inch body lift, 4.5 inch lift from 1 ton swap.
Lund Moonvisor
Korupt Kittens antenna dancer.
93 F350 4door 4wd 7.3 diesel huge beast of a truck
84 F150 351 H.O. C6 2wd (the parts getter)
'03 Expedition 5.4
BFG All Terrains
Always updating so check back heres a link to my superford.org
Superford.org
My Gallery
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