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Grey2003
I have a 1995 XLT and I am looking at getting a overhead console and auto dimming mirror out of a EB. I need a rearview mirror pretty bad as mine is all delaminated and after looking around on Ebay I saw this.
Ebay
Or what about a newer year, like this one?Ebay

That's starting to get kind of spendy, but how hard would it be to install it? Major surgery or just a sunday afternoon?

Also if anyone wants to sell me one, just let me know. Thanks
92bronco_in_progress
QUOTE (Grey2003 @ Nov 11 2008, 10:33 PM) *
Major surgery or just a sunday afternoon?



i would say a sunday afternoon, anything canbe done in one day if you want it to be lol, i would go with the older one, its probably a direct bolt up
Grey2003
I did end up buying one on Ebay. It was kind of buried in a store for $63.00 with shipping. Now I just need to find the wiring diagram for it, and order a temp sensor. Any help or direction for this would be great. Thanks.
Seabronc
If you know what year and vehicle it came out of then you can get an EVTM for that truck and it will have all the required connections shown. I'm interested myself, I can get them out of late 90s to early 2000s for around $50.00. However, they may require some inputs not available from my 83. Haven't really looked to far into it yet.

Try giving Meisk5 a PM. He may have a link to a write up in his vast list of links.

Good luck,

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Grey2003
QUOTE (Seabronc @ Nov 12 2008, 03:05 PM) *
If you know what year and vehicle it came out of then you can get an EVTM for that truck and it will have all the required connections shown. I'm interested myself, I can get them out of late 90s to early 2000s for around $50.00. However, they may require some inputs not available from my 83. Haven't really looked to far into it yet.

Try giving Meisk5 a PM. He may have a link to a write up in his vast list of links.

Good luck,

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Hey is it posible for you to get me one out of a '95? We don't have many wrecking yards in my rural area.
Seabronc
QUOTE (Grey2003 @ Nov 14 2008, 10:07 AM) *
Hey is it posible for you to get me one out of a '95? We don't have many wrecking yards in my rural area.


The next time I go to the local friendly auto parts recycler, I'll check to see if they have a 95 with one. One of the problems with the late 90's is the shape of the headliner in the front, much more curved near the window than the Bronco. It would require some work to get them to fit a Bronco head liner. Doable with some reshaping of the console mounting surface or fabing a mount for it.

Good luck,

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Seabronc
I just looked at Meisk5's links, you might find this interesting. I haven't had a chance to look through it yet but I think what you are looking for may be there. http://www.broncolinks.com/index.php?index=296

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Seabronc
Checked out the Local Friendly today. No 95 Eddie Bowers. I take it you asked about that based on info in the Meisk5 links where Steve from FSB did a write up on one that doesn't require any modification to put it into a bronco. They do, on the other hand, have the ones out of 1996 - 2000 that require some modification of the trim profile. I picked one up, including the temperature sensor and plan on making the modifications to install it in my 83. As it turns out, the speed sensor input is only to compensate for the wind chill factor which is easy to compensate for by changing the mounting of the sensor.

Good luck,

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Grey2003
Ok. So can this not be done without the wiring harness? The console is from a '95 Bronco EB. If so, does anyone have access to a harness that they would sell me as I cannot find one at a wrecking yard around here. Thanks
Seabronc
QUOTE (Grey2003 @ Nov 19 2008, 03:31 PM) *
Ok. So can this not be done without the wiring harness? The console is from a '95 Bronco EB. If so, does anyone have access to a harness that they would sell me as I cannot find one at a wrecking yard around here. Thanks


Post a picture of the connector, an in focus up close of the connector from the pin end. I think I may have a connector you can have with about 3 inches of wire attached to the pins. You would only have to splice the wires or you can put new ones in by getting some new pins ant a auto supply.

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Grey2003
QUOTE (Seabronc @ Nov 20 2008, 11:47 AM) *
Post a picture of the connector, an in focus up close of the connector from the pin end. I think I may have a connector you can have with about 3 inches of wire attached to the pins. You would only have to splice the wires or you can put new ones in by getting some new pins ant a auto supply.

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Thanks so much. It should arrive fri or monday I hope. Wohoo a project. Thank goodness this is my hobby sometimes.
92bronco_in_progress
QUOTE (Grey2003 @ Nov 19 2008, 05:31 PM) *
Ok. So can this not be done without the wiring harness? The console is from a '95 Bronco EB. If so, does anyone have access to a harness that they would sell me as I cannot find one at a wrecking yard around here. Thanks



i was not aware that broncos came with the overhead console
Seabronc
QUOTE (92bronco_in_progress @ Nov 20 2008, 11:36 PM) *
i was not aware that broncos came with the overhead console


95 Eddie Bower had that option. It is the same as the ones in the Explorer but with a different profile to the trim that it is mounted in. See the link above.

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Grey2003
Okay, It finally came today. Is there any reason that I can't make my own harness, so to speak and connect to the plug behind the e-brake? Well at least I've read that's where the harness plug is, and what about the temp sensor? Wires for that and does anyone have a part number for the bronco one. I've found the article concerning the Explorer one, and I just need to find the part number for the Bronco/F150 one if it is indeed different.



Seabronc
You probably don't need to do any wiring since you have a 95 Bronco, your truck should already have all the wiring you need. You will need a temperature sensor if you didn't get one with the console. Check the front of the truck, who knows maybe it is already there. If not there should be a blank cover over the connector. There are two styles, but they function the same and as far as I can tell they interchange since I found both styles on an Explorer I will be right back with the diagrams from the EVTM.

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Seabronc
OK, like I said, this should be a, "plug and play" for your truck. All connectors and wires should already be there.

Here are the diagrams, let me know if you need more.

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Removed two irrelevant diagrms.
Seabronc
Here is another picture that might help. I borrowed it from Steve at FSB. A stock headliner for the console.

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Grey2003
So does this look like a complete temp sensor? It does to me, but I don't know. I also don't have the backing plate so I am not sure how to mount it, but it doesn't seem that heavy. BTW thanks for all the help.

92bronco_in_progress
that looks like it might be it.........
Seabronc


It sure looks like the temp sensor to me. They don't have a plate that they mount to. If that is a sensor and not a blank cover, they are only attached by a small plastic clip. The best way to see if it is a real one is to hook up the console to the plug under the head liner. If the temp displays, you got it. All you have to do to get the headliner off is to remove the trim pieces and visor mounting. Just loosen the ones at the back and you can slide it forward and out. Just be careful sliding it back in so you don't damage the edges. Is that on your truck?

Also, the connector for the console should be under the head liner. Did you get the mounting plate with it?

I added that headliner picture so you could see how the Eddie Bower headliner was cut for the console.

Good luck,

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Grey2003
QUOTE (Seabronc @ Nov 26 2008, 03:50 AM) *
It sure looks like the temp sensor to me. They don't have a plate that they mount to. If that is a sensor and not a blank cover, they are only attached by a small plastic clip. The best way to see if it is a real one is to hook up the console to the plug under the head liner. If the temp displays, you got it. All you have to do to get the headliner off is to remove the trim pieces and visor mounting. Just loosen the ones at the back and you can slide it forward and out. Just be careful sliding it back in so you don't damage the edges. Is that on your truck?

Also, the connector for the console should be under the head liner. Did you get the mounting plate with it?

I added that headliner picture so you could see how the Eddie Bower headliner was cut for the console.

Good luck,

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Took the headliner out and there is no wiring harness sitting there. I even put a 1" whole saw up there to feel around and got nothing. I wouldn't think it would be between the headliner and the inner roof panel though at that would be a potential rattle and the existing map lights wiring also goes in between the outer roof and inner panel. After a bit I did find the receiver for the harness behind the emergency brake, but nothing was connected to it. So I guess that I don't have the wiring in the roof, sooo does anyone have the correct wiring for receptacle behind the emergency brake. I have looked and looked and no one has a diagram for it. only for the harness itself and from all the wires in the harness, there appears to be some different colored ones to hook up to.
Seabronc
QUOTE (Grey2003 @ Nov 26 2008, 02:50 PM) *
Took the headliner out and there is no wiring harness sitting there. I even put a 1" whole saw up there to feel around and got nothing. I wouldn't think it would be between the headliner and the inner roof panel though at that would be a potential rattle and the existing map lights wiring also goes in between the outer roof and inner panel. After a bit I did find the receiver for the harness behind the emergency brake, but nothing was connected to it. So I guess that I don't have the wiring in the roof, sooo does anyone have the correct wiring for receptacle behind the emergency brake. I have looked and looked and no one has a diagram for it. only for the harness itself and from all the wires in the harness, there appears to be some different colored ones to hook up to.


That sucks, I don't think I'll be getting back to my local friendly junk yard for a while, but if I do, I will check the harness for an Explorer to see if it is the same. You could probably order it from Ford, most likely expensive though. Another option is to get the plugs and make your own. Like I said, I have an extra plug that goes at the console end. Is it possible to get a picture of the one under the dash?

For my truck I have to build the whole thing all the way to the sensor.

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Grey2003
Ok here is the console plug:


And here is the plug behind the emergency brake:


Hopefully I can get an identification on the plugs and just make my own harness. Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving.
Grey2003
Well we got it powered up, The map lights work, but cant get the display to fire up. You would think that if the map lights have power so would the display. Any hints?

Got it to work by process of elimination. Turns out the Run/Hot wire did not make a proper connection. Display now powers up and the compass seems to work, but temp is not because of no temp sender. Will order that this next week. Meanwhile I'll be able to put my headliner back up.
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