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Oct 22 2009, 09:57 AM
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![]() Where's My Hammer!?! ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 22-October 09 From: N.Carolina Member No.: 14,323 |
I recently had a 95 eddie bauer 5.8L transported to me from galveston TX. I'm pretty sure it was there for hurricane IKE. I checked the oil when I first got it, and it seemed okay besides alot of rust-type residue(which could be a whole other story). It's starting to get really cold here, and I have only used the truck to go to and from work so far, as it has 260K+ miles on it. Upon checking the oil today, the dipstick was covered in thick white foam. Could that be from water vapor in oil not getting to temp from short drives in cold weather?... or possibly an after effect from going through the hurricane? I've been driving it for about 2 weeks now.
any suggestions appreciated before I go take it to a mechanic!! thanks -------------------- "that's what she said..."
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Oct 22 2009, 11:16 AM
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It's Only Money, Right? ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 21-October 09 From: Painesville Ohio Member No.: 14,318 |
sometimes moisture will cause foam on oil cap but if your oil is milky foam sounds like headgasket to me
-------------------- 1989 Bronco 302
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Oct 22 2009, 12:32 PM
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Bronco Pimp ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: 18-November 06 From: beautiful trenton, n.j. Member No.: 5,970 |
i agree with 2%. does it use anti freeze?
-------------------- 1990 xlt
5.0 e4od 31x10.5 bits and pieces donated by the crusher bound 1995 xlt 5.8 e4od 31x10.5 |
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Oct 22 2009, 12:48 PM
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![]() Where's My Hammer!?! ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 22-October 09 From: N.Carolina Member No.: 14,323 |
i agree with 2%. does it use anti freeze? yeah it uses antifreeze.... and I just checked it again and it's fine after sitting for about an hour or so. it seems to get foamy when it runs, and then settles out as it sits.... what should I expect to pay for new headgaskets installed? thanks -------------------- "that's what she said..."
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Oct 22 2009, 01:48 PM
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It's Only Money, Right? ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 21-October 09 From: Painesville Ohio Member No.: 14,318 |
depends on where you get it done honestly ive seen it from 200-700 depending on vehicle and gaskets they use or if head needs machined. Get multiple quotes if possible and go with reputable shop. I do my own so I cant really help alot here
-------------------- 1989 Bronco 302
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Oct 22 2009, 04:37 PM
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![]() Supreme Commander ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,790 Joined: 26-December 07 From: New Jersey Member No.: 9,476 |
If you really think that it might have been underwater, then give it an oil change, and say a prayer.
If you are loosing coolent, and don't see it dripping, then the oil change is probably a waste of $15 - $20. -------------------- BroncoJoe19... I am not a professional mechanic, nor an engineer.
One should always obtain professional advice before attempting a repair or modification. 1990 Tan on Black Eddie Bauer - resides in North Jersey 302 with 33's on 15s E4OD Speedometer corrected trans Auto hubs with manual transfer case snorkel |
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Oct 22 2009, 05:04 PM
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It's Only Money, Right? ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 21-October 09 From: Painesville Ohio Member No.: 14,318 |
another thing you can try is look behind the door panels or under dash and see if there is mud or dirt if it was a flood vehicle there will be evidence of it being submerged usually
-------------------- 1989 Bronco 302
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Oct 22 2009, 06:48 PM
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![]() Bronco Maniac ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 156 Joined: 15-July 09 From: Trenton NJ Member No.: 13,600 |
If its a head gasket, plan on spending some money. You dont do one, you do both. And with that kind of mileage, your askin for trouble. My reccomendation is to either 1: completely rebuild that motor, or 2: buy a long block. For what it costs to put new head gaskets on a 351, you might as well go all the way and be done with it.
-------------------- Almost anything can be fixed with a little know how, a case of beer, a roll of gorilla tape, and a really BIG hammer.
96 XLT 5.0, 3" single exhaust with flowmaster, WARN premium locking hubs,305/70/16 BFG All Terrains, a few rattles, couple squeaks, some dents, buncha crap i dont really need, but think is cool...... http://www.mymudspace.com/Triton02 |
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Oct 23 2009, 10:55 PM
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Bronco Pimp ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: 18-November 06 From: beautiful trenton, n.j. Member No.: 5,970 |
i would run a compression test on it. at the very least i'd hook a vacuum gauge up to it, just to be sure it is a gasket problem before i took it to a mechanic. it sounds very much like it's the gasket, but taking a 260k motor to a shop for head gaskets is opening a can of worms. i'd decide how much the truck is worth to me, then either go with the rebuild/long block, as 50joe suggested above, or find another running small block. you could find a decent junkyard motor for the price of the head gasket job. i might actually do both, put a running engine in it, and rebuild the old one with no pressure to get it done quickly. let's you save money for the high quality/performance parts, instead of cutting corners because the truck is down.
are you anywhere near NJ? This post has been edited by bobstrat: Oct 23 2009, 11:01 PM -------------------- 1990 xlt
5.0 e4od 31x10.5 bits and pieces donated by the crusher bound 1995 xlt 5.8 e4od 31x10.5 |
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Nov 2 2009, 02:12 PM
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![]() Where's My Hammer!?! ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 22-October 09 From: N.Carolina Member No.: 14,323 |
i would run a compression test on it. at the very least i'd hook a vacuum gauge up to it, just to be sure it is a gasket problem before i took it to a mechanic. it sounds very much like it's the gasket, but taking a 260k motor to a shop for head gaskets is opening a can of worms. i'd decide how much the truck is worth to me, then either go with the rebuild/long block, as 50joe suggested above, or find another running small block. you could find a decent junkyard motor for the price of the head gasket job. i might actually do both, put a running engine in it, and rebuild the old one with no pressure to get it done quickly. let's you save money for the high quality/performance parts, instead of cutting corners because the truck is down. are you anywhere near NJ? I'm in N carolina currently, and have no mechanical experience whatsoever. Otherwise, I would love to do it myself. I just moved here from Tahoe, and don't know a good mechanic yet. This is my sole form of transportation, besides shoes. I fell in love with the truck as it is a hand-me-down from my father in law who was a bronco enthusiast, and went on many many rallies back in his day. I would hate to see it die.... but I figure if it breaks down, then I'll slowly have it worked on as I can afford it, but I would never give it up...it's body and interior are in great shape, and I'm starting to think these are the kinds of things you hold on to after being a member of bronco zone for a couple weeks... ;D -------------------- "that's what she said..."
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Nov 2 2009, 03:45 PM
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![]() It's Only Money, Right? ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 6-March 04 From: northern utah Member No.: 514 |
i wouldnt suggest driving it any longer until you find out whats wrong. if it is a head gasket and you get too much water in a cylinder it could "hydraulic" and that would be catostrophic engine damage ! ie.. broken piston / rod / block ect... i seen this happen on a ford 3.8 v6 it had a little leak and was just producing steam out the tailpipe then the gasket gave away all at once and filled the cylinder with water while it was running, then bang it was done.
This post has been edited by riggermortis: Nov 2 2009, 03:49 PM -------------------- 1967 sport bronco 302 w/efi, 1992 F250 7.5L, 2001 cobra mustang 32V 4.6, 1979 harley FXS lowrider 1340
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Nov 3 2009, 09:55 AM
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![]() Where's My Hammer!?! ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 22-October 09 From: N.Carolina Member No.: 14,323 |
i wouldnt suggest driving it any longer until you find out whats wrong. if it is a head gasket and you get too much water in a cylinder it could "hydraulic" and that would be catostrophic engine damage ! ie.. broken piston / rod / block ect... i seen this happen on a ford 3.8 v6 it had a little leak and was just producing steam out the tailpipe then the gasket gave away all at once and filled the cylinder with water while it was running, then bang it was done. I finally got some pics uploaded in my albums of the truck, and the questionable foam under the oil cap..... here it is. any suggestions?..... also, the valve at the top of the picture that looks like a bike tire valve seems to be leaking fuel. Should I cap this valve or does it need to be left open? (**clueless**) any assistance is greatly appreciated. thank you... -------------------- "that's what she said..."
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Nov 3 2009, 04:38 PM
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![]() It's Only Money, Right? ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 6-March 04 From: northern utah Member No.: 514 |
i would do compression test on it. your local napa, checker, autozone, ect.. should have a tester to loan/rent and tell you how to use it its pretty simple. as far as the schrader valve no its not supposed to leak and it does work just like a tire valve. and you should be able to pick one up when you get the compression tester.
-------------------- 1967 sport bronco 302 w/efi, 1992 F250 7.5L, 2001 cobra mustang 32V 4.6, 1979 harley FXS lowrider 1340
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