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Oct 3 2009, 08:36 AM
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![]() Duck Tape L'fixer :) ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 9-August 09 From: Jacksonville, Fl Member No.: 13,774 |
Now I have water in the engine oil!!! I know where the problem is, however I don’t know what to do or how to get the water out. The problem happened after I replaced my intake and gaskets. The guy at the parts store told me that “ these are fel pro self sealing gaskets and they don’t need any sealer”. So I took his advise and now I have water in the oil!! I have pulled everything and am now starting over. This time I am using a good sealer!!!! Any ideas on how to get the water out of the oil??? It is a fine green-milky color from the valves down to the pan.
__________________ -------------------- Stock 95 Bronco XLT 302 EFI and E40D. 200xxx
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Oct 3 2009, 10:37 AM
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![]() Use Ford parts, let da ZONE handle ice scrapers ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,832 Joined: 18-October 05 From: near a neat overpass Member No.: 3,816 |
Too bad J!
Hope it isn't hydrolocked. Don't think of starting it; remove negative battery cable, then +_ cable drain the oil - replace filter w/a cheap filter; wipe off dipstick each time if it has the milky (water) color on it Fill with a light weight Cheap engine oil Drain oil and change filter - check for milky color in both filter and drained oil Reapt until milky color is gone Fill with your normal oil & filter If you feel the water is basically gone now, run engine to warm up oil A few days later check the oil again. If it has a milky color, change engine oil and filter once again Also Consider SEA FOAM http://www.seafoamsales.com/motor-treatment/index.html Call around, find an old timer garage that has an oil extractor; read about it here; http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html read about sludge & flushing oil there too Those extractors were used down in Gulf Coast years back after canes came through and folks HAD to get in their trucks (not many cars in the parts where I was) and drive to safety. This post has been edited by miesk5: Oct 3 2009, 10:39 AM -------------------- See our Big Bronco Technical/Mods, Parts Sources, Technical Service Bulletins, & Vehicle Classified/General Info Links site
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Oct 3 2009, 12:30 PM
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![]() Bronco Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 784 Joined: 25-April 09 From: Memphis, TN 38002, USA, Earth, Milky Way Member No.: 13,027 |
All intake gaskets are coated & should NOT have additional sealant applied. The only exception would be Indian Head Gasket Varnish around the coolant journals.
But I think it's more likely you didn't torque the intake properly, or it's warped or pitted. -------------------- |
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Oct 3 2009, 12:44 PM
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![]() Duck Tape L'fixer :) ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 9-August 09 From: Jacksonville, Fl Member No.: 13,774 |
All intake gaskets are coated & should NOT have additional sealant applied. The only exception would be Indian Head Gasket Varnish around the coolant journals. But I think it's more likely you didn't torque the intake properly, or it's warped or pitted. What is "Indian Head Gasket Varnish"? Also honestly I just bolted it down, Did not know it needed to be torqued. If you could do you know the specs? -------------------- Stock 95 Bronco XLT 302 EFI and E40D. 200xxx
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Oct 3 2009, 01:17 PM
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![]() Supreme Commander ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,531 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Alberta Member No.: 5,522 |
Take meisks advise, only you can expect to do it more than once. May take a few oil changes to get it all oit depending on how long it ran for. Its not the end of the world, I have done it and not a big deal if you follow meisks directions. Yes there is a sequence to torquing the intake and must be followed. Steve has some diagrams on his supermotors page that will show you the correct sequence if you do not have this available. Also now would be a good time to grab a torque wrench if you dont have one.
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Oct 3 2009, 07:45 PM
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![]() Bronco Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 784 Joined: 25-April 09 From: Memphis, TN 38002, USA, Earth, Milky Way Member No.: 13,027 |
What is "Indian Head Gasket Varnish"? Google or your local parts store will be able to answer that. Did not know it needed to be torqued. I guess I hit THAT one on the head! If you want a Ford service disk, read this caption & e-mail me (not PM). This post has been edited by Steve83: Oct 3 2009, 07:49 PM -------------------- |
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Oct 4 2009, 04:33 PM
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Bronco Maniac ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 103 Joined: 13-November 08 From: Coolidge, Arizona Member No.: 11,795 |
Fastest way i know to get water out of your oil, without having to but lots of oil, is Drain your tainted oil and then go buy about 5 gal of DIESEL FUEL, and run it thru the engine a few times for about 30min and then drain and fill with clean oil.
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Oct 4 2009, 06:16 PM
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![]() Bronco Maniac ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 156 Joined: 15-July 09 From: Trenton NJ Member No.: 13,600 |
have heard about the diesel fuel trick, but have a few reservations about it. I have dealt with this before, and all I have ever done is just keep changin the oil. Is it a pain in the ass? YES. but very much needed. Doesnt take very much water in oil to eat the crap out of the internals. Flush the hell out of it, and chalk it up to live and learn.
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Oct 5 2009, 06:35 AM
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![]() Bronco Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 784 Joined: 25-April 09 From: Memphis, TN 38002, USA, Earth, Milky Way Member No.: 13,027 |
If you're gonna pour something OTHER than oil into your crankcase to remove water, it should be rubbing alcohol (70% or higher) or ethanol (everclear, white lightning, SLX denatured alcohol). They'll absorb the water into the old oil so it can be drained away, but then any residue will boil out quickly so the new oil isn't contaminated further.
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Oct 28 2009, 08:31 PM
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![]() Duck Tape L'fixer :) ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 9-August 09 From: Jacksonville, Fl Member No.: 13,774 |
Ok guys here is an update. It seems that I finally got everything running and working correctly, well almost. Once I got the intake on correctly, I was then able to flush the engine oil and coolant systems. To complete the engine oil flush I just asked the guy at the jiffy lube if he could get me some clean but used oil. In about an hour he called me with a 5-gallon bucket of it. It only took about half of the bucket to flush out the oil system. I then just used regular water to flush the engine coolant system. So now I just need to know what engine coolant do I need to get? Or does it matter? And I need help on the last two problems, that is now I am still receiving fault code 172 (o2 sensor fault) and the other problem is that my temp gauge is not working?
Other then that all systems are a go. I can even smoke my tires now!!! Everyone thanks for your help!!! -------------------- Stock 95 Bronco XLT 302 EFI and E40D. 200xxx
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Oct 29 2009, 03:04 PM
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![]() Bronco Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 784 Joined: 25-April 09 From: Memphis, TN 38002, USA, Earth, Milky Way Member No.: 13,027 |
So now I just need to know what engine coolant do I need to get? Or does it matter? Yes, it matters a LOT. Read the last paragraph of this article, and read the rest when you have time....I am still receiving fault code 172 (o2 sensor fault)... What's the WHOLE definition?...my temp gauge is not working? Read this caption:-------------------- |
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Oct 30 2009, 05:17 PM
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![]() Duck Tape L'fixer :) ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 9-August 09 From: Jacksonville, Fl Member No.: 13,774 |
[quote name='Steve83' date='Oct 29 2009, 03:04 PM' post='100322']
Yes, it matters a LOT. Read the last paragraph of this article, and read the rest when you have time.What's the WHOLE definition?Read this caption: o2 sensor (right bank lean) So can I use Green antifreeze? -------------------- Stock 95 Bronco XLT 302 EFI and E40D. 200xxx
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Oct 31 2009, 06:49 AM
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![]() Bronco Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 784 Joined: 25-April 09 From: Memphis, TN 38002, USA, Earth, Milky Way Member No.: 13,027 |
So now you need to find out why that sensor would indicate a lean condition. Is there an exhaust leak on that side? Check the 2ndry air system, too. Is the wiring damaged? Is the connector corroded?
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Nov 3 2009, 10:51 AM
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![]() Bronco Newbie Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 2-October 09 From: United States Member No.: 14,208 |
what oil are you useing?
some of the oil i have here has the consistancey of water straight out of the drum. IMHO if you had enough fuel in it to make the oil very watery you would have blown bearings by now. you could have simply got a fuel blackage in the filter or air leak and was sucking air. your fuel problem may not have anything to do with the oil. |
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Nov 17 2009, 03:37 AM
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It's Only Money, Right? ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 13-January 09 Member No.: 12,209 |
What's odd is I only get water in my oil in winter time.. not a lot, but enough to notice it. Truck runs like a champ though. Summer time, no traces what so ever. Odd indeed.
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Nov 17 2009, 06:37 AM
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![]() Bronco Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 784 Joined: 25-April 09 From: Memphis, TN 38002, USA, Earth, Milky Way Member No.: 13,027 |
Normal indeed - especially if you only make short drives. You have to drive long enough for the engine to fully warm up & boil all the volatiles out of the crankcase.
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